To start the show, Jason Hartman talks about his 9-day travel adventure, including the Venture Alliance Mastermind and Freedom Fastlane. He also discusses the deflationary effects of technology, Hartman’s Theory of Relativity, and the recovery of the US economy. In the interview segment, he hosts Nick Adams, Founder and Executive Director of FLAG, The Foundation for Liberty and American Greatness. They talk about the five things America needs to do to economically boomerang and the four ways for America to be exceptional culturally, militarily, economically, and scientifically. Nick also talks about his belief that Trump will be America’s next great president for four and possibly even eight years.

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Jason Hartman 1:03
Welcome to the creating wealth show. This is your host Jason Hartman episode number 764 764. Thank you so much for joining me today as i have just returned late last evening to my new home in Las Vegas, Nevada. A no income tax state that I mentioned the no income taxes. Yes, a big world strategy that I’m going to bug you with once in a while, is to get yourself if you can I understand that not all of you can get to a low or no income tax location, because just paying that money to the black hole called government. It just, you know, you don’t usually see anything for it. I mean, considering all the money I pay in taxes, and I don’t even have a library card. So yeah, it’s get your To no or low income tax state, if you can. Well, I am back from nine days on the road. Wow, that was tiring and exhilarating. At the same time. It started off with a drive to Phoenix, where I hosted our venture Alliance weekend and we had Charles go yet Ken McElroy real estate. I mean, Ken McElroy is really one of the biggest names in real estate. Of course, he does apartment syndications, not what we do. But he’s got a lot of experience. And he’s just such a sharing giving guy. We’ve had him on the show a couple of times, as you know, and we’ll have him on again. And he spoke to our venture Alliance group in a great intimate setting. And then Tom wheelwright, another one of the rich dad authors along with Ken McElroy, and the Robert Kiyosaki Rich Dad series. He’s got a great book tax free wealth. He spoke to our group as well and it was just a great intimate setting. Ken McElroy joined us for lunch and we just got to hang out with him for a few hours. So that was great. I did mention that before on a prior episode. So we won’t dive into that too deeply here, but and then I had two speaking slots at the IMF conference where it was kind of a mix of people at that several hundred people. I don’t know the exact number. You know, I want to say it was maybe seven 800 people at that event. I had two speaking slots there and a lot of institutional investors big players in the single family real estate game, because our business is maturing and becoming more institutional, you know, again, in the overall scheme of things, when you consider about 15 million single family homes in America owned by mom and pop investors, people that own less than four units total. You know, the institutional segment of the single family home business is a drop in the bucket overall in the big scheme of things, but it is interesting to watch them learn from them. watch their behavior, what they’re buying, what they’re selling. What What is their attitude and then after that, and I’m going to go back to that in just a moment, but after that I flew to Austin, Texas, one of the markets that we used to recommend but of course it got way too expensive. So Austin is a little out of reach for getting that good old 1% rule 1% per month are investors that are in Austin, myself included, you know, if they’ve got stabilized properties you just hold on to them and just enjoy the appreciation you’ve gotten enjoy the cash flow because your basis was locked in earlier at a time when prices are lower and it’s sensible and you might want to consider of course the refi till you die strategy will not only even consider that just do it refi till you die is a fantastic strategy, but also the two for one strategy where you sell one of your highly appreciated properties as I’ve talked about an I have done with my portfolio and I I continue to do and continue to consider selling One property to buy two, or maybe even three. As you heard, we did a show somewhat recently, where one of our investment counselors just traded one for three. Yeah, one for three. Not one for two or two for one. However you want to say it 341241 that can be a great strategy, of course, but yeah, going back a lot. Yeah, Austin. Jason, stay on track. I know it’s early and you didn’t get much sleep last night. Okay, here we go. Fantastic time at my friend Ryan, Daniel Moran’s conference freedom Fastlane which is internet marketing and a little bit on the investing side. I spoke on real estate investing there with some of my colleagues in the business and, and that was really interesting, and I was just so delighted to see so many of our clients there. Gosh, I don’t want to start naming you off, but we had, I’m gonna guess a good three dozen of our clients there. That came To me and said hello. And it was just great seeing all of you, I just don’t dare to name you because I know I’m going to miss somebody and feel bad about it. But, but it was wonderful seeing all of you there really was very heartwarming number one to know, the reach that we have on this podcast and in with our business in general, and helping people invest in the most historically proven asset class in America, or really in the world income property and also the most tax favored asset class in America, income producing real estate. I got to tell you here, here’s my point of kind of telling you what I’ve been up to for the past nine days. With back to back three conferences back to back. The sentiment is pretty darn bullish. And a lot of that is because of Trump, our first real estate president that I seem to be the only one talking about that. I don’t hear anybody else saying Trump are first Real Estate president now. You know I have my qualms about Trump. I think he’s he says a lot of crazy stuff. You know, he can be reckless, no question. But I am excited about seeing him shake things up. Because the last several decades has not been good for America. I don’t think anybody could really argue that a continuation of the status quo would be a good thing of the corrupt career politicians. A lot of people are criticizing Trump saying you’re not draining the swamp. Like you said, you would look at all these insiders. Well, folks, I mean, seriously, who else are you going to tap to get into your administration? Right? You’ve got to get experience people, especially when you’re not a career politician, right. You’re an outsider, Trump is an outsider reason. He’s never held office before, which is pretty amazing. I mean, I won’t use a banner Have we ever had that Where we we have a president that hasn’t held some elective office? I mean, even good old Ronald Reagan, the gipper. You know he was governor of California Of course, but before that I don’t think he held office. And you know, except the Screen Actors Guild president so forth, but it is interesting in in the sentiment is pretty darn bullish. Now. I want to compare and contrast, the sort of three elements if you will, because yesterday, at my friend Ryan’s conference, I got to meet Peter Diamandis and I talk a lot about Peter Diamandis, on the show, and he is a futurist. He talks about all of these incredible things that we are on the verge of, of course, we’ve had his co author on the show, Steven Kotler. They’re the authors of bold and abundance. The future is better than you think. Fantastic information. And Peter talks a lot about technology and he does Say it directly, but I’ll say it the deflationary effects of technology, which which are pretty incredible. We all know that we all know that in our pocket, probably right now as you listen to this, you are holding a computer you have not holding. But you know, in your pocket, you have this computer that is more powerful than all of the computers that NASA had when we landed on the moon. during the Apollo program. You have this computer in your pocket that has more information that you have at your fingertips. Then, Bill Clinton had when he was president, when he was the most powerful person in the human race as President of the United States. That phone that smartphone you have has more information than the President of the United States had not too long ago. It’s an amazing time to be alive. So in Look how cheap that thing is, you know, you can buy that for one 200 bucks is that about the cheapest, decent smartphone? So that is a deflationary force. Now, let’s talk about the business cycle. So we are many years, arguably five to seven years into a recovery. I’ve talked about the recovery before, I think it’s largely smoke and mirrors built on a house of cards. But the question is, compared to what compared to what meaning what other country? What other country has this perfectly sustainable, non fiat money? Non Keynesian type of government, right? Well, pretty much no other country or at least no other large country. I know you can argue about Switzerland and so forth. And, you know, it’s just not even worth having that discussion. I mean, compared to what you can criticize the US I certainly do all the time. And talk about how ridiculous our system is how this whole whole financial system is built on a house of cards and you’re right. But the question is relativity, the theory of relativity, not Einstein’s but Hartman’s compared to what compared to what other country, the US is doing pretty darn good when you compare it, not compare it to this ideological idea of being on the gold standard and being fiscally solvent and, you know, blah, blah, blah. We’ve all heard that stuff. In fact, I’ve talked about that stuff and promoted that stuff on many other episodes on the show, but compared to what, so, as the business cycle goes, we are due for a recession. As the cycle goes, however, compared to what See, you can argue that we’re five, even seven years depending on how you count into a recovery. But a recovery is from the worst economic malady that this country experienced since the Great Depression. And we will call this last one, of course, the great recession. Okay, seven decades, where we have the we had the worst disaster in American economic history. I mean, I don’t know you go really far back. I know there were some Civil War times and people were printing protest coins. I own a couple of those protest coins. That’s a whole nother discussion, where they you know, we’re trying to get out of the the monetary system and break away from the federal government and all this kind of stuff, right. But, you know, look, let’s just talk about it Great Depression versus Great Recession. So that was an extremely bad time. We can all agree on that. So this recovery is from a very low, very bad baseline. And that’s why I don’t think you can argue the business cycle the same way you normally would. I mean, look, every, every seven years or so, we tend to have a recession. But this time, this part of the recovery is is is measured off a very low baseline. So it’s different, right? The famous last words of investors This time, it’s different. I know, I know, I might be sounding a little like that. And then we’ve got this really interesting, and it’s not a value judgment. But it’s an interesting administration coming in to run the country with just a massively different ideology. We’ve got this president with a well, I’d say a rather healthy. I’m joking, of course, a rather large ego. And that would be Mr. Trump, of course, President Elect

Nick Adams 13:57
and you know,

Jason Hartman 13:58
I think He is going to do what? Whatever it takes to just juice the economy. And I’m not saying that’s necessarily good for the long run, you know, that he might and we don’t know how we govern yet. Exactly. Yeah, it’s a bit of a wild card for sure. But he might be the ultimate Keynesian Money, Money printer. Right? We might, we might look back and say, Look at Bush and Obama. You know, they were just spend spend spend, I mean, Bush he called himself a Republican, but he was really just as I’ve said before, a Democrat who believed in God, whereas most Democrats believe in government, and so they were spenders. They spent money like drunken sailors day. One of Ronald Reagan’s great quotes from long ago was to say that the the the government spends money like a drunken sailor, is an insult to drunken sailors because the government is It’s absurd, right? Well, I don’t know, maybe Trump will be like that, you know, he’s he’s got this trillion dollar infrastructure plan. I mean, is he going to get that from supply side economics? Where’s that money gonna come from? Is it going to be a Keynesian money printing party, where there’s going to be just a massive amount of printing? Will interest rates go up? Well, you know, how will the Federal Reserve react to Trump? So if rates go up, hey, you want to lock in your 30 year fixed rate loans now? Because if rates go up, that’s actually good for you. The investors that already have that debt locked in for three decades, the debt that you won’t make the last payment on until 2000 and really 47 2047 Do you know how much the world will change by them? Three decade long, incredibly cheap, historically low fixed rate debt debt is My favorite four letter word I absolutely love debt. As long as it’s not consumer debt, I have zero consumer debt. But I try to have as much real estate that while income producing real estate debt as I can, because it’s a very powerful tool used judiciously. So we will see how that all pans out. But the bottom line is that the sentiment is bullish for our first real estate president. And I tell you, I am looking to do some more two for ones with my own portfolio where I trade one property and get two more maybe three more if I can. But yeah, I’m, I’m looking for more investment opportunities because as little time as I have to be a good investor, because I’ve got businesses to run and a life to run and all of that stuff. You know, I’m probably a little busier than most of our listeners, not all of you. I know some of you may our busy me is busy nurses some sort of status symbol But yeah, I’m pretty bullish on on real estate right now or income properties specifically, not in the cyclical markets. Those if we do go into a recession, which I don’t know if that’s going to happen, folks, because Trump has some, some really good ideas about the economy, love him or hate him, but some of the stuff he’s going to do with his trade policies are very inflationary, and inflation is our biggest home run. All right, we can make money and in any type of economy, but inflation being the most favorable of the three basic economic maladies, inflation, deflation stagnation, and I’ve told you before on the show, how to make money in any of those in any of those scenarios, but inflation being the home run, Trump is inflationary. I really think that’s where it’s going to go and we’re going to have a lot more inflation discussions on future episodes, and we’re going to discuss how to react and respond and be effective in a Trump administration as an investor. So, lots more to come. But let’s get to our guest today. Let’s talk about the American boomerang. You’re going to be excited about this one too. So there is some some good stuff coming up. All right, visit Jason hartman.com. Meet the Masters is about half full, or I guess if you’re a pessimist, you could say it’s half empty. So ticket prices will be going up again soon. A lot of you have been registering like crazy. We’ve got our it’s our annual event. We only do this once a year in January the day after the presidential inauguration in January, in Irvine, California. If you live back east, or in the Midwest, or in any cold climate around the world, I know we’ve got investors from all around the world that fly in for this event. And our teams from all around the country are flying in for it. Hey, come to California in January Southern California in January. Pretty Nice place to be. So make it a vacation. Hey, bring your family go to Disneyland. Right Disneyland is right there nearby. So get your tickets for meet the masters of income property. Irvine, California, January. Jason Hartman comm slash events. Jason Hartman comm slash events, get your tickets, and we will see you there. All right, let’s go to our guest. It’s my pleasure to welcome Nick Adams. He is the founder and executive director of flag and he will tell you what that acronym means in just a moment. He’s a columnist for townhall.com, former Centennial Institute policy fellow author of the best selling book The American Boomerang, how the world’s greatest turnaround nation will do it again and author of the new books Green Card warrior, my quest for legal immigration in an illegal system, and retaking America crushing political correctness. Nick,

Nick Adams 19:58
welcome. How are you? Jason, it’s great to be with you, sir. It’s good to have you with us and where are you located? I’m located in the great state of Texas, the state that is known for the belt buckle and the pickup truck and chicken frog debate and Blue Bell ice cream and all those other wonderful capitalist

Jason Hartman 20:16
things. There you go. And we can tell by your accent that you are an immigrant from down under right from South Texas. That’s right.

Nick Adams 20:27
Very, very deep staff. Yes.

Nick Adams 20:30
You got it. You got anyone. Fantastic, Australia, good stuff.

Jason Hartman 20:34
Well, everybody wants to know, you know, how will trump affect the economy? What does it mean? What action, if any, should people take with their investments and their thinking and their businesses and so forth? And when did you write the American Boomerang book? What is the publication

Nick Adams 20:53
date for that? Well, Jason, in 2014, the American Boomerang and how the world’s great turnaround nation was published with a foreword by Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. And it essentially dealt with what I believe needed to happen for an American Renaissance for a constitutional patriotic revival of the United States, which I, unlike many others, considered to be only five minutes away at any given time, because of the spirit and the mentality that Americans have a very unique and exceptional one. And it was a book outlining my 10 point plan for the United States to undertake such a Renaissance and then involve ending the waste paying back the debt, limiting the government axing political correctness protecting the borders, preserving Judeo Christian traditions in in the culture of entitlement, cutting taxes, exercising fidelity to the constitution and keeping the peace through on question, military advantage. And all of those things are not just things that can be done necessarily at the ballot box or by government policy. But I think a lot of the the ailments affecting the greatest country in the history of the world have been cultural ones, which is why I’ve been thrilled to see that in recent times, at least at the ballot box, which is the first step. Americans have had kind of taken a step toward those 10 things outlined in the American dream, right.

Jason Hartman 22:33
So do you think Trump represents all 10 of those things? were maybe I should ask you more broadly, the last election in general?

Nick Adams 22:42
Well, you know, Jason, I came out for Donald Trump on the 15th of June 25. Day, there’s on sorry, the 16th of June 25 day, which was when he announced I was on the Trump train from day one. I read the out of the deal when I was 11 years old. And that book really shaped my, my life and my career. And so when he announced why he didn’t best represent, I guess my conservative ideology, I was instantly supporting him and was very public with my support with my commentary on fox news and, and elsewhere. And I think that he most certainly represents a very significant part of the 10 point plan. You know, Jason, oh, god, this guy to change the culture. And because culture is far more important than politics, and culture, Trump’s politics pardon the pun. But I think that the best person to really impact the culture in America and right around the world is Donald Trump because he transcends politics in many ways. And that’s why I support him from the get go. And that’s why I am very optimistic that he is really going to adopt many of those points that I included in my 10 point plan for the United States. Because I think he’s someone that wants to restore pride in the United States. I think he’s someone that wants to restore self belief that wants to restore logic and common sense. It doesn’t want to say the entitlement state and all of these other politically correct ideologies take any more greater route than what they already have. And I think the answer is nothing. That was a good day for America. And I think that everyone is going to benefit from it. I think he’s going to make America a more prosperous place. I think he’s going to make it a more American place, if that makes sense. You know, when I think about the United States, Jason and before I was in immigrants. I was a lifelong admirer from the age of seven or eight years old. I used to don’t tell people I want to go to America and people thought I was crazy. But you know, I’m not the only one Arnold Schwarzenegger. stuart varney is so many Ilan musk. There’s so many of us that are born practically burning for the United States almost inexplicably. But it’s something about the optimism, it’s something about having the chance to fail. It’s something about the energy that exists. there’s a there’s a culture of risk. And there’s a reward for risk. And I guess when you come from a risk averse culture like England or Australia or anywhere in Europe, you really just find the United States an amazing place and I think that Donald Trump is going to preside over far more. I return I guess, to the to a far more American America than what we’ve seen in the last Few years, I think we’re gonna see incentives rewarded. I think we’re gonna see hustle and the risk, reemerge people coloring outside of the lines.

Jason Hartman 26:11
I agree. I agree with all that. The one thing you didn’t mention about the, you know, the comparison of America to other countries is you didn’t mention the, I guess what I’ll call the tall poppy syndrome. And you probably know what I mean by that were achievement in, say, Scandinavian countries in Europe in general, especially Western Europe that’s become so socialist in Australia, New Zealand. You know, I mean, I’ve been to 80 countries now. I’m a big traveler. So I have some familiarity and being born in Europe myself, you know, this kind of idea that you shouldn’t stand out that you shouldn’t be exceptional in America rewards that or at least that used to be the culture in America. under Obama, that certainly shifted for the worse I thought, but I think that’s gonna become it’s gonna come back into vogue with with the Trump administration, you know, so I’d like you to maybe just add to your your comments with it with the tall poppy syndrome idea and you know if you notice that living outside of America,

Nick Adams 27:14
without a doubt that the single most powerful reason that I left Australia is because while you write it does happen just about everywhere else this tall poppy syndrome. Australia, I think is and it’s not this not just my opinion not anyone who does extensive review on it will will tell you the same thing. Australia is known as the worst proponent of the tall poppy syndrome. And it’s why almost every single time is Australian that any of your listeners would be familiar with. Don’t leave Jason in Australia, they live in America. And that’s because this is the young country in the world where success is not sainted. And I should point out that the tall poppy syndrome obviously that’s an analogy to successful people that that cut down the size so they match with all the other puppies. I should mention that one of the one of the fallacies associated with the tall poppy syndrome is that it extends nearly to successful people. It certainly includes successful people, but it also includes anybody that does things differently. Anybody that is outspoken, anybody that has confidence, essentially, anyone that applies a different approach, anyone that tries to blaze a trail or leave a legacy or, or differentiate themselves, I guess in any way, even if it sounds successful, even if it doesn’t bring financial success. That’s all part of the tall poppy syndrome where if you do all of those things in any other country, you’re targeted, you become a You become a target for the media, for the culture for your neighbors and for everything else. It was Greg Norman, who is another one of my great heroes and mentors. Obviously a famous golfer, but in the last 20 or so years, and credible business owners businessman, with wines with clothing, apparel, designing golf courses and everything else and, and he said in his book, something that always stayed with me. When I was a teenager when I read it. He said that the difference between Australia and America can be summed up like this. And American teenagers going home from school, sees a bright red Ferrari in his neighborhood street stops and says, Wow, I want to get myself one of those. I want to work as hard as I go to work, and do whatever I got to do to get any one of us and Australian teenager in precisely the same situation. Going home from school. Carly’s neighborhood street sees a bright red Ferrari. What does he do? gets daddy’s key and scratches it.

Jason Hartman 30:07
Hmm. Wow, that’s really that’s really, really sad. But you know, I mean, just on balance, though, let’s address some of the criticisms of some of the stuff you said earlier. I don’t want to go into the really the material side of it that much, because anybody who believes that material resources and and financial resources aren’t important is just in the chewer. Okay, just grow up. If you if you think that and you’re listening to this, you’re just really immature. Sorry. That’s just the reality of it. It’s not everything, but it is something it is something. Okay. So, assuming we’ve moved past that, what do you say to the critics of you know, this kind of like American exceptionalism idea though, a lot of people would would view some of the stuff you said is, is racist as improper as you No boasting we don’t. There’s all kinds of criticism out there of this type of belief system isn’t there?

Nick Adams 31:06
in that series Jason and I encountered over time, I think subject to listless opprobrium precisely to that reason. Look, there are four ways that a nation is said to be exceptional, culturally, militarily, economically and scientifically. And on each of those four measurements, in almost 5000 years of recorded human history, we have never ever seen a country I culture or I people like the American culture, national people, no nation has ever dominated to the extent that America has from the industrialized the agricultural age, and now the information age, America has been at the forefront of all of those things and everything that we use every single day, whether it’s a GPS, whether it’s the internet 13 miles whether we catch a flight, whether we hopped in a car, all of us things whether we eat too much and someone has to perform the Heimlich maneuver. And all of these things come from American ingenuity and innovation. And it’s not an accident. American exceptionalism is is not only provable imminently, so but it’s not accidental either. It came because the most prescient major there was this. The founders of the United States understood that the way to unleash human capital, the way to unleash human ingenuity and creativity was to make sure that men and women was unencumbered as possible by government, red tide, the need for government approvals and the like. And that’s why we’ve seen America essentially shaped the modern world that we live in today. And the other point of difference, Jason with America and the rest of the world is that America is the only country that’s not just a country. It is an idea. It is an ideal. It is a notion, an improbable and daring experiment. And, and for that reason, America attracts, you know that there’s a certain amount of feeling and emotion you can have toward a culture and a fellow person but you can really have a visceral fear, greed or hatred of an idea. And that’s why America attracts such such intense emotion but the law then and height. But look, America is the world’s exceptional nation if you took away America, you know, you have North Korea inviting South Korea you’d have Taiwan being overrun by China, you’d ever Russia rebuilding the Soviet Empire, you’d have these moments. terrorists. Well as as

Jason Hartman 34:01
as dinesh d’souza says, imagine a world without her. Yes. Yeah, it’s, yeah, that’s good. Very good point. Okay, so when it comes to the boomerang, talk to us a little bit more about the economic side of that, if he would. I know where our time is limited, of course, but I want to make sure we touch on some of the economic issues here. And it does seem that Trump is very bullish for business. I mean, I’m sure you’d agree with that. But, you know, just any distinctions you want to make or drilling down on that. Well, look, I it’s, I think that Donald Trump is going to be a boon to big business, small business, and everyone in between. I think that he is going to really make people feel very comfortable about investing about taking a risk.

Nick Adams 34:53
You know, I think all of that is is is going to happen without a shadow of a doubt. And that’s a good thing. Because we need people to be confident we need the economy to be roaring as much as it possibly can be. So I, I’m very optimistic that he’s going to do the things that need to be done and he’s going to cut taxes. I think that he’s going to really attack the debt, which is very, very important. I think he’s going to avoid liberal mass Jason and I think there are five things that America has got to do to economically boomerang. Because right now, America has got more problems than a math book. Because just consider this if you started a business the day that Jesus was born, and lost a million dollars every year, you’d still be in better financial shape than the American government. Sounds

Jason Hartman 35:58
really scary.

Nick Adams 36:00
It is so the American economy is in real trouble. But there’s good news. America’s economic filings are largely policy filings and policy filings can always be fixed. liberal math has led to economic weakness. So what needs to happen and needs to be Jason a consensus inspiring economic plan that Americans unite behind to avoid it? And it’s not a very intricate plan, either. I mean, I think it’s a very simple five step plan. We’re going to cut taxes, there should be a limit on tax liability. The economic recovery Tax Act of 1980 was championed by the President Ronald Reagan dropped inflation, unemployment and interest rates massively. I think we’ve got to cut red tape and green tape and rewritten deregulate. I think we got to stop spending so much money. I think we need to repatriate the almost $3 trillion held by American corporations overseas by weighting the 35% tax rate and gave it money back into the economy with US corporations hiring workers and purchasing equipment. We may be exploiting energy resources even even more. So, you know, if Donald Trump can get behind any of those five, and I have a feeling he’s gonna get bought all fine when America is easy for an even better time than the reagan Yeah,

Jason Hartman 37:27
yeah. Wow. Yeah that says the the roaring 80s. But liberals love to criticize the roaring 80s. I remember years ago seeing Brian Gumbel that left us news anchor from the today show, criticizing the he called it the greedy excesses of the Reagan era. And I thought look at this hypocrite and all the millions of dollars he makes every year. It is mind boggling the way Hollywood treats the other side of the aisle. You know the right the political right. It’s just so hypocritical to me. They do, everything they do is opposed to what they say, you know, it’s this do what I do do as I say not as I do. mentality, it’s it’s pretty ridiculous. And it’s surprising how many people don’t see through that. But it’s gonna be interesting. And I’ve certainly been a critic of Trump enough, my listeners have heard it on the show, although I’m glad the criminal known as Hillary Clinton didn’t win. I’ll tell you that much. The thing about Trump that I think is going to be fascinating and potentially just awesome, is that he has spent his entire life living in the real world, in the results economy, whereas these politicians that we’ve had running the government for the better part of five decades, if not longer, I mean, I just don’t know my history well enough to go back further than that. These career politicians, they just they don’t understand what it’s like to produce results and to be on the hook for things. You know, everything is A bureaucracy and a committee and just an absurd kind of way of thinking. I mean, it’s pretty exciting that that stuff could really get done here. I mean, things could really happen. And I think it’d be, you know, there could be some real movement or real change in our government for the better. Absolutely. No, I think all that’s gonna happen. Jason on it, give them Eric is in for a good time, at least for the next four years. And potentially, I think he got the makings of the incredible president and provided that things go his way. And, you know, there’s always a little bit of luck involved, but provided he stays the course and some things go his way. I think we’re going to be talking about a historic presidency. Well, Nick, it is going to be fascinating to watch that is for sure. And I’m looking forward to, to diving in and seeing what happens after January 25. Get out your website and tell people where they can find out more about you and your books and so forth.

Nick Adams 40:04
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Jason Hartman 42:12
Fantastic. Well, Nick Adams, thank you so much for joining us today. And we’re going to look forward to a very, very interesting and fascinating four years of a Trump administration. So thank you for sharing some of your thoughts about it with us and we appreciate having you on the show.

Nick Adams 42:27
Thank you, Jason. never been a better time to be an American.

Jason Hartman 42:32
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