To start the show, Jason Hartman talks about being lonely and the high number of divorces benefiting consumer product companies. Later, he interviews Karen Straughan about feminism. Karen is known for her Youtube Channel: Girl Writes What? Karen explains why feminism is an often misunderstood word and shares the conspiracies behind the movement.
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Welcome to Episode 16 21,620. Today, we have the cure, Oh, actually, we don’t have the cure. We have the reason for why so many people in the world are so lonely. You know, the British government. As we talked about, before we reported on this what was it maybe two years ago, they appointed a ministry, a minister of loneliness, it is such an epidemic problem. There are similar problems in the United States, and around the world, especially in westernized countries. Because westernized countries have a disease. And it is a disease that is spreading like a cancer. It is making people depressed, lonely, unhappy. And I believe, as I have reported on in the past, that it is by design, by design, for none other than greedy, monetary reasons. Well, I’ve told you before about how it is much better for consumer products companies, to have people never marry or to have them divorce, actually, it’s best for consumer product companies to have people marry. And then divorce. It is best for the government, to have people marry, and then divorce. In fact, it’s even better for all of these big corporations and governments to have people marry and divorce multiple times. So if you if you wanted to stimulate the economy, if you wanted to double the size of your market, if you’re a consumer products company, if you sell toasters, coffee makers, sofas, beds, whatever it is, you would be much better off having people be single than married. Because if they’re married, they only need one of all of those products, because they will share them in one household. But if they are single page double the size of their market. And why might you say would the government be in on this? Well, the government has a very vested interest in keeping the economy running, keeping the economy going. And guess what more consumption means more economic growth. Now, the only people that should be but don’t seem to be very concerned about this are the people on the political left, because it’s terrible for the environment, to have to have everything. Two toasters, two coffee makers, two TV sets, or at least double the number, you know, people probably have a few TV sets in their home. And so say they have two TVs, typically. And if you’re married, you have two TVs. And if you’re single, you now have four TVs, if two people are single instead of married, right? They got two sofas, two beds, two coffee makers, two toasters for television sets, and double of everything else. So they’ve doubled the size of their market. And they have increased the consumption base dramatically. So there is a very vested interest for the powers that be to sow the seeds of discontent to sow the seeds of maybe you saw that movie years ago. It was kind of a scary movie. I saw it with my girlfriend at the time, Elizabeth. And I remember what that was. When I lived in Newport coast. We went to the movie, and you know, I was kind of shaken up about this movie afterwards. It was it was a little scary. It was called devils out. advocate. Did you see that movie? And do you remember the line? He says, He says, The devil says, As soon as you move to the city, you are trying to better deal your spouse. Right? sow the seeds of discontent to find a better deal. And the deal you have, right the spouse that you have.
And so this is what Madison Avenue has been doing for decades. It’s what the corporatocracy has been doing for decades. And it’s what the government has been doing for decades, started and got its big foothold in none other than the 60s. Yes, the 60s. That was a massive change for everything. And that was when Madison Avenue was just really, really booming. And it was when all of this cultural change was going on the divided country. The Gloria Steinem with her famous line what Gloria Steinem say, Well, she said a lot of things, but one of the things she said is a woman needs a man, like a fish needs a bicycle. Actually, that was the wrong sound effect. I meant to do this. Let’s try it again. Gloria Steinem said, a woman needs a man, like a fish needs a bicycle. Yeah. So there you go. And the world changed on these statements. And guess what else happened? The corporatocracy got bigger, it got richer, it got more powerful. And the government got a whole bunch of extra economic stimulation. And we saw, we saw one parent or single parent families with you know, kids, and only only one parent present. And then we had a whole series of movies and TV shows, Kramer vs. Kramer way back in the 70s. And, and all the rest, right. And War of the Roses, which by the way, is an excellent movie about a house. They have a beautiful house. And this couple’s trying to kill each other in this beautiful house that they made War of the Roses. So not to make light of it, though, all of this massive cultural change pushed by the media, by Madison Avenue by the corporatocracy by the government, and the most successful method of genocide. Yeah, that’s right. That has probably ever existed. The massive reduction in the birth rate of educated people, because guess what, educated people are the only people that bought the lie. The dumb people didn’t buy it. The basic blue collar people didn’t buy it. The immigrants didn’t buy it. But the educated people that were behind the cultural shift of the 60s, they bought it hook line and sinker. And since then, 10s of millions of people in the US have been lonely, depressed, using massive amounts of, you know, psychiatric drugs like Prozac and Lexapro, and all this poison, putting it into their system, and all sorts of other things. It’s just been a huge cultural shift. So our guests will talk about it today. This is a 10th episode show where we go off topic and talk about something of general interest. But doesn’t it amaze you how it always comes back to the money? The money, like deep throat in Watergate said, No, Get your mind out of the gutter? Not that one. Deep Throat and not the famous movie, or infamous movie, the Watergate character, he said, follow the money, follow the money.
So always follow the money, and you’ll find your answer. So there’s a big movement behind this. And it is a movement to keep people single. And we’ve seen marriage rates decline massively. We see in birth rates decline massively look at Western Europe going extinct. Look at Japan going extinct. And look at the US population of the baby boomers, and the Gen Xers my generation going extinct, not the immigrants see when you look at the US population overall. Immigrants actually have children, right, and they have higher marriage rates. But the folks that were here in the 60s behind the cultural shift, now they’re just slowly going extinct. And so it has been a massive, massive change, but temporarily, it’s much better for government and much better for the big corporations. Because the consumption doubles the economy in an economy where you have 70% of the s&p 500 being consumer spending, if you want to double your market size, you gotta sell two toasters, two washers and dryers, two refrigerators, two sofas, to have everything, not just one. And the way you do it, is you keep people single, or if they’re married, you help them become discontent. So they get a divorce. And then it’s actually better if they don’t stay single. It’s better if they get married, get divorced, get married, get divorced, again, and again. And again. Because then you prop up the whole wedding industry, and there’s more money spent and more debt incurred. And that’s what it is. It’s all about making people, massive consumer drones and debt slaves. And that’s the plan from the top folks. Whether you believe it or not, you can just see the result of it everywhere you look. Okay. Now, before we get to our guests, let’s just take a moment. We got to take a moment for this because it’s like, folks, you can’t make this stuff up. It’s so insane. Get can’t make it up. So let’s look more to the left, just like we were when we talked about the cultural disaster that has that has sickened our country for decades. And by the way, once again, I want to reiterate my advice. You must you must watch old movies, watch old TV shows, read old books. Listen to old music. The music from the 70s was the last real vestige of romantic music, where men mostly were singing their heart out for women, pining over women, loving women. I mean, the lyrics to any 70s song, whether it be john Denver, or you know, the beegees or any of them. I mean, there’s so much of it right? And then women actually loved men back then to my favorite Karen Carpenter, the late Karen Carpenter, the most incredible human voice possibly to ever walk the earth. What a sad story. Karen Carpenter left us way too soon. I mean, her voice. Like my friend, Scott says, it’s like melted butter. It’s just, her voice is incredible. And folks, that was before autotune. Okay, the voices nowadays, they’re all corrected with computers and software and technology. back then. You were actually listening to the singer.
Okay. And so it all changed massive shift. You know, it lingered on. And then in the 90s at all, you know, 1990 was the peak of civilization, the culture, the culture war was over. That’s, that’s the real turning point. That’s when it ended. All the music got really ugly and disgusting, and, and vile and paid. Do I sound like an old person? Well, I am a little older. So yeah, I guess I’m sounding older. So I’m the stodgy old guy. Okay, go ahead. Yes, I am. But, but that’s what happened, folks. It’s the culture war. Like I said, yesterday on the live stream, the culture war is over. And the good people lost. But it’s still an amazing time to be alive. Because we’ve got all this great technology, this super high standard of living even in the midst of dire circumstances, people still have actually quite a high standard of living mostly. So it’s a very divided thing. And it makes it hard to hard to evaluate. It really does. But um, psychologically and culturally, the Western world is is very, very sick. advanced countries are very, very sick. The prescription drug usage, the depression, the loneliness, that I mean, it’s just, it’s just beyond the beyond. So I hope to awaken you to some of this stuff. And our guest today will also Okay, let’s get on with our 10th episode. guests. Remember, this is a 10th show tomorrow, we’ll be back with a regular show, and I should make the announcement for next year starting in the new year. We’re going back to three episodes per week, folks, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We’ll have five episodes per week, until the end of the year. And then we are going back to our monday, wednesday friday schedule to have a little more time and resources to put into our YouTube content. If you aren’t subscribing to us on YouTube, please make sure you do because we are really planning to up the quality of our YouTube content dramatically in the new year. And you’re gonna love it. So there you go. Alright, let’s get to our 10th episode guest. This one’s gonna be controversial. Here it is.
It’s my pleasure to welcome Karen stron to the show. She is a critic of political feminism, and an advocate for men’s rights. She is based in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, and she is the mother of three children and she is best known for her infamous YouTube channel. Girl rights. What? Karen, welcome. How are you?
Karen Straughan 15:32
I’m good. I’m good. How are you?
Jason Hartman 15:34
Good. It’s good to have you on. So tell us what’s going on in the political arena. Visa v feminism. I think that’s a hotly charged word. And I think it’s a very misunderstood word. I think you know, a lot of women and men would call themselves feminists but not really, you know, people have very different definitions of that. Maybe you can help us by understanding it or defining it first.
Karen Straughan 16:00
Oh, well, you know, as Naomi wolf once told me there are a million different feminism’s. So you know, you can’t really pin it down. I’ve described dealing with feminism as sword fighting a fart. Just never going to be able to pin it down. But I’m very critical of academic feminism and political feminism. So I look at it and I look at the the body of theories that are based on a lot of really biased research, if you can even call it research. And then that has sort of been promulgated within academia since the 1970s. And then the advocacy of political feminist lobby groups that really don’t embrace the dictionary definition of feminism, which is just equal rights for men and women. That I think is really, feminism isn’t all bad. There are some feminist icons, they don’t tend to be spoken about much in feminist circles, because maybe because they are true egalitarians, like the late Karen de crow. But the body of theories and the political activism and the broader effects on society and you know, sort of how feminism sort of declared war against men as a class back in 1848. And men, I think, over the last 20 years or so are starting to wake up and realize that war has been declared against them. And, and they’re starting to push back a little bit.
Jason Hartman 17:30
So yeah, well, you know, I recently finished the book men on strike. I’m sure you’re familiar with that.
Karen Straughan 17:38
Oh, yes. Helen Smith, she’s she’s a sweetie.
Jason Hartman 17:40
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, and interestingly, you know, you’re obviously female. That’s the she’s female. You know, they’re writing about this, because it’s really quite damaging to women. Oddly, you know, it’s kind of counterintuitive. You have to think full circle on, on what happens here. But maybe I’ll ask you that, do you think feminism has hurt women? And if so, how, tell us about that,
Karen Straughan 18:03
oh, I think it’s hurt everybody, it’s hurt women in terms of if you look at sort of the feminist prescription for a good life for a woman that’s, you know, you go you get your career, you work, you stay single, until your 30s and then you settle down and do IVF because you can no longer conceive naturally. And it’s, it’s just the timeline that they’re proposing that women should follow is kind of backwards. You know, I’ve always been of the opinion that you have your children young when they’re when you are healthiest and most able to conceive and carry a child and when your children are most likely to be healthy, and not have complications and you know, problems like Down syndrome and things like that. That’s how you do that. And and then you when your kids are in school, you go and you pursue a career, that’s that’s probably the better life path when you consider all of the things together. But it’s really stuck a wedge in between men and women that sort of set them out as competitors and adversaries rather than partners. And this is one of the saddest things is you know, like I look at men, as fellow travelers on the journey, right? You know, we are we are supposed to be in partnership with each other. We’re supposed to have a cooperative relationship. We’re not supposed to be rivals, at best nations at war at worst, but that seems to be how these you know, strip branches, the important branches of feminism, the the branches of feminism that are the areas of feminism that have influence on society, on the media, on politics on all of that. That’s how they want men and women to be defined. And then on top of that, they selectively choose their data. So there was this interesting I went and I looked at the world monetary fund or something like that at the
Jason Hartman 19:58
vv international monitor. From the IMF,
Karen Straughan 20:01
the World Economic Forum, I believe, from Davos,
Jason Hartman 20:03
meeting in Davos, Switzerland, do,
Karen Straughan 20:06
they come up with this gender equality or gender gap index every year or two. And one of the things that’s most interesting about how they measure gender equality, is the best score you can get on any metric is a perfect one. And if you are not equal, then you get less than one, but the way they measure it, and they actually say this, in their introductory preamble, is if men are ahead of women on some metric, then you get a score of less than one on that metric. But if women are ahead of men, such as in post secondary enrollment, or, or life expectancy or whatever, you actually still get a perfect one. So if, you know according to how they measure things, in that index, if no men went to university, ever, and men were suffering, and were behind falling behind women at every single metric, a country would still get a perfect one, they’d be considered perfectly equal. So, you know, like this, this is kind of what what I try to point at and draw people’s attention to,
Jason Hartman 21:20
yeah, that’s interesting. There are theories which seem to have some good validity that pitting the genders against each other. And, you know, increasing the divorce rate, or reducing the marriage rate is, you know, that’s a pretty good deal. When you have an economy if you’re part of the corporatocracy, right, if you’re, you know, these big companies that sell every sort of consumer goods you can possibly imagine, you know, when you have an economy that is 70% consumption, like the US is, and if you get people to not partner up, or if they’re partnered, if you drive a wedge in between them, so they split up, heck, you can sell them to sofas, to houses, to coffeemakers, to have everything, right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Two refrigerators, two sets of washers and dryers, you know, you double the size of your consumer market? Like it’s a huge deal, right? Absolutely.
Karen Straughan 22:19
Absolutely. And it’s not like that they can just if they have kids, it’s not like they can just move into, you know, studio apartments and and do it that way. Right? Because, you know, if if dad wants any kind of visitation with the kids, overnight visits the kids, he needs to have a two bedroom house or a three bedroom house, he can’t just have a studio apartment.
Jason Hartman 22:41
And so you’re literally having, I wouldn’t say it’s twice the consumption, you’re right, it’s much more than twice the consumption. Because you’ve got to have a bigger house, you’ve got to have not only two beds, One for you and one for your ex or the person you never married. Right. But you’ve also got to have double sets of beds for the kids in each house. Right? Yeah.
Karen Straughan 23:03
Yes. And, you know, like, there was I forget who it was, I saw it on a documentary called demographic winter, I would actually really highly recommend anybody to watch that. But there was a researcher who said that if we lived today, the way we lived in in the 1970s, say, with the the marriage rates, and the intact family rates, and all of those, there’d be like 300 billion gallons of fresh water preserved saved in the US every year. Right? It is like, it’s not just consumer goods. It’s using natural resources. I mean, you’re burning gas to heat to houses, natural gas, heat to housing, right.
Jason Hartman 23:46
So So oddly, this is terrible for the environment. From from the left, which is a big advocate of feminism, you know, it just recalls the idea of, I think it was Gloria Steinem, who said, a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, right? And, you know, this is just so untrue. both genders need each other people couple up, it’s happened that way throughout history. And this narrative has just tried to destroy that whole idea of that whole happy idea of traditional family life.
Karen Straughan 24:19
One now you’re seeing men finally taking a stand and saying, well, a man needs a woman like a bicycle needs a fish. Yeah,
Jason Hartman 24:27
yeah. Well, that’s that’s the this there’s a name for that. It’s called MiG tau men going their own way. And it’s a sad state of affairs, that like the title of that book, many men really have gone on strike, you know, because,
Karen Straughan 24:42
and it’s not even a lot of them aren’t even consciously taking a stand and saying, I’m not going to pair up. I’m not going to do that. I’m not going to do what I’m told. A lot of them are just losing interest losing motivation. There’s no incentive for them to perform above minimum capacity. They don’t See marriage, even if they wanted or want to get together with somebody, it’s just, it seems like too much bother. It’s you know, it’s easier to just kind of live in mom’s basement and play video games and watch porn than it would be to actually jump through the hoops that the and the increasingly confusing hoops that women and society are putting in front of them. Like one of the most amazing statistics that I heard recently on CBC Radio no less, which is generally a very left leaning, feminist centric, you know, broadcaster, but one of these, one of the panelists and well, 35% of working age men under age 25, in Canada, don’t have jobs. They’re not working.
Jason Hartman 25:49
No. Right? No, I know, I, you know, I mean, it’s odd that you get the radical left complaining, the radical left, especially females complaining about these things, because women are surpassing men. And like every category you can imagine, you know, college, it’s like 56% versus 44. Or it might even be worse than that, forgive me, my statistics are probably out of date. So just correct me. in graduate school. It’s the same thing in careers in like every category,
Karen Straughan 26:19
women earning earnings, if you’re single and childless, and under age 30, or 35, women are now earning 8%, more than their same age male peers, right. So, you know, you’re sort of looking at it and you think,
Jason Hartman 26:35
How can this be portrayed as some oppressed class? It’s just the complete opposite is true?
Karen Straughan 26:40
Well, and on top of that, well, I wouldn’t say men are an oppressed class. I think that men
Jason Hartman 26:44
No, I’m saying women, I’m saying, How can they portray women as being the suppressed class? Certainly, I don’t deny that that, you know, may have been true or probably was true in the past, I’m just talking about today. It’s just, it’s just completely flipped. And I guess, you know, I guess they’re getting even, maybe, you know, that’s the, that’s the vibe. So
Karen Straughan 27:06
it’s really, it’s really sad to see that, you know, and it does seem to be you know, that a lot of, you know, and I, I interact with a lot of internet feminists, and many of them are highly educated in feminist philosophy and stuff here. And they really do seem to have a vengeful streak, right? Turn to be on top now. And it’s your turn to suffer all the depredations that we believe women suffered in the past, because of man and and all of this right. And it’s it really does seem to be, you know, sort of a vengeful, spiteful nod,
Jason Hartman 27:40
there’s no question about that. It’s, it’s, it’s awful. I’ve, you know, had a few encounters on Facebook with that type of just hateful, complete intolerance. You can’t even have a discussion. It’s,
Karen Straughan 27:53
it’s it’s really eye opening, when you actually say, you know, there are 14 year old boys who were statutorily raped by adult women who are paying child support out of their paper route. Yeah, right. Because even though she went to prison for that, even though she went to prison for that, right, she gave custody of the kid temporary custody to her sister, she got out of prison, she got custody back. And then she went on welfare, and the government forced that child support out of that, boy, that is right. And
Jason Hartman 28:26
that would never happen the other way around.
Karen Straughan 28:29
And the courts say, doesn’t matter.
Jason Hartman 28:32
It doesn’t matter. Well, the courts even gets worse than that the courts have forced men to pay child support for kids that aren’t even theirs, that they basically thought were theirs. And this is much more common than people think, by the way. There are many married and divorced men, or just cohabitating men who are raising kids that aren’t their genetic children. You know, they did a DNA test, and they’re absolutely shocked. And the courts say, tough, it doesn’t matter. Yeah,
Karen Straughan 29:06
doesn’t matter. And you know, and the thing is, too, right. You know, if
Jason Hartman 29:09
I mean, I mean, in a normal civil situation, the woman who portrayed that lie would be, would be certainly liable for fraud, a massive fraud and liable for damages. And, you know, probably criminal fraud. I mean, that’s just incredible that someone would do something like that.
Karen Straughan 29:28
It doesn’t matter. And then you you have feminists saying, you know, DNA is not the end all and be all and, you know, and really, Father, right? And I’m thinking, Okay, so there was this, there was this woman who, in France, I believe, who accidentally went home with the wrong baby, and raise that baby for 16 years and was a mother to that child, right, and then found out through some medical emergency or something that this is not my child, and she sued and she got millions of dollars, millions of dollars in damages from the hospital over that mess up. And so if you think that DNA isn’t the end all and be all right, what if you were to go into, you know, you want you are going to go you’re going to take fertility treatments, you’re going to have your eggs harvested, you’re going to do in vitro fertilization, you’re going to go through all of that. Right? And then what if you found out that your female fertility doctor substituted her eggs for yours, and implanted them in you? How would you feel? Would you feel wronged? If you would not feel wronged in that situation? Then don’t say DNA isn’t the end all and be all? If DNA wasn’t the end all be all, you just adopt a newborn? They wouldn’t harvest your eggs. Right?
Jason Hartman 30:49
And speaking of egg harvesting, it is absolutely just weird, if not unconscionable that these greedy, big, especially tech companies left leaning, big tech companies are offering these, you know, egg storage and harvesting for their female employees. They’re just greedy. They just want them working as corporate slaves. It’s absolutely I mean, I don’t what do you think about that? I think it’s weird, if at the very least, if not much worse,
Karen Straughan 31:23
i think i think it’s it’s foolish of women to decide that, you know, what, how my life plan is going to be? I’m going to work until I’m 35. Right? And then I’m going to do IVF with my harvested eggs. IVF. Is
Jason Hartman 31:39
35 even older, much older. Sounds good?
Karen Straughan 31:42
Oh, yeah, no, but IVF is one of those things that I was considering doing that when I first was together with the man I’m with now, about 10 years ago, because I had my tubes tied and, and he’s had a vasectomy. And we were thinking about it a child and you know, if you get the surgeries reversed it, it’s you only eat a very small chance that you’re going to conceive naturally anyway. And so we were thinking about it, we’re tossing around the idea, and it’s like, $10,000 pop to do that. Oh, yeah.
Jason Hartman 32:14
And so I think it’s more in the US, by the way, but
Karen Straughan 32:18
probably probably and so we’re thinking about it and thinking about it. And we’d be like, and and I said, you know, like, I’ve always been one of those women that you know, I borrow somebody’s toothbrush, and I end up pregnant. So yeah, I touched somebody’s baby. And then the next day I was knocked up. So I kind of looked at it like, okay, so I wouldn’t want to just implant one embryo. Because what if it didn’t take and then it’s another $10,000. But if we implanted five, all five would take, because that’s just that’s just how it would work with me. That’s just, you know, so I was just like, you know, I’m, I’m just not, and I would not do a selective abortion. I would not do a selective termination of, you know, three fetuses. Right,
Jason Hartman 33:05
right. Yeah. And that’s, that’s a whole nother discussion. We’ve, you know, we’ve already offended enough people today. We won’t get into, let’s not, let’s not touch the abortion one today.
Karen Straughan 33:16
I would not do that. I would not be that guy. Got it. Okay.
Jason Hartman 33:19
So, you know, what do you say to this school of thought, you know, it’s interesting how, you know, we we talked a few minutes ago about the negative impact on the environment of splitting people up or keeping them from getting together in the first place. It’s much more environmentally friendly, for people to be coupled up living in one house having one set of everything that they share, than it is for them to be separated into houses having two sets of everything, plus even more if they have children as soon as we discuss. So that is bad. Feminism is bad for the environment, we’ve determined that okay, but what about the idea on the sort of the flip side, but related nonetheless, of you know, some would say that feminism is a conspiracy to reduce the birth rate, especially among educated people, because uneducated people, you know, they don’t care about feminism, okay. The only people that really talk about are these sort of elite class, or, you know, at least college educated people, right, it it, you know, this, this takes hold in this very left leaning intolerant university environment. That’s where it really, really takes hold, and, of course, the, you know, zero career path of, you know, making it your major. I I’ve never seen a job posting for, you know, we need a feminist studies major to work at our company. Yeah. who’s hiring for that? No, no, but But what do you say to that? That’s sort of the flip side of the argument, isn’t it?
Karen Straughan 34:53
Well, I think you know, there are all kinds of conspiracy theories, you know, that the the CIA funded feminism and and the Rockefellers funded feminism and they
Jason Hartman 35:03
are definitely population reduction folks.
Karen Straughan 35:06
Yeah, they funded women’s lib. And part of the reason was that they wanted to get women out in the workforce because they would be, be able to be taxed and be and have disposable income to purchase consumer goods and all of that. And then
Jason Hartman 35:23
one more, let me just interject on that one. And then go on. Feminism is a great deal for governments because it increases the size of the economy. Okay. It’s a great deal for corporations, it increases the size of the workforce, it increases the consumption, we’ve determined that Okay, go ahead.
Karen Straughan 35:39
Drives wages down.
Jason Hartman 35:40
Yeah, drive wages down, because there’s more competition for a limited number of jobs, the pie expands. But you know, it’s double the workers. Right. Go ahead. Yeah.
Karen Straughan 35:49
And, but also that it would put kids would end up being parented by the state. Right, that was really what you know, you get them into schools. You get them into daycares. You get them into all these kinds of state regulated places. And then you can actually program the kids and sort of take over the parenting function from the parents, right.
Jason Hartman 36:16
That Brave New World type of idea. Yeah.
Karen Straughan 36:19
Yeah. And, you know, like, I don’t, I don’t know, I think, I think that it would have happened, regardless of any kind of nudges by the Rockefellers or the CIA or the globalists or the population reductionists. Right. I mean, we’re seeing the moment that women got any kind of control over their fertility and any kind of economic independence from men sort of on mass. And you can look at this in developing nations as well, right? birth rates are going down across the globe, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Jason Hartman 36:51
It’s not just here, we’re just, we’re just read it read a book called read a book called empty planet. And it’s, it’s a it’s I believe it’s a un study. Okay. This is from the left leaning, liberal United Nations. Okay. And it’s a un study saying that in 50 years, 100 years, there’s just not going to be many people left. And if you can see this, look at it, look at Western Europe, Russia, Japan, I mean, they will simply not exist, then you can’t you can’t have a country or even a region or even a, you know, a race without people.
Karen Straughan 37:29
Agreed. And but and you look at it to like, because birth rates are falling, even in developing countries and and second, and third world countries, I guess you would we used to say, bags all over the country,
Jason Hartman 37:41
politically correct? Yes,
Karen Straughan 37:42
go Yeah. But you’re looking at birth rates declining there. And then you’re also looking at it. And this is one of the real knock on effects of our declining birth rates here is we have to import people from countries that are still growing, right. But so much of that, you know, you end up with Father absence in those countries, you end up with brain drain, and father absence has all kinds of as Warren Farrell probably told you negative effects on children. Oh, sure. Um, and then you have brain drain in those countries. So we’re taking, you know, because we want to be equal and feminist II, and you know, when 56% of our medical students right now are women, you know, well, women only put in between 50% and 75%, of the actual doctoring over their lifetimes that men do so willingly,
Jason Hartman 38:33
because they leave the workforce to have children is that what you know?
Karen Straughan 38:37
Yeah, they leave the workforce to have children, they often don’t specialize. So we’re lacking in specialists, and they’ll go into family practice or pediatrics. And that’s generally where women tend to go. So we’re lacking in specialists who are, you know, surgeons and, you know, enter ologists and, and immunologists and stuff like that. So but you also look at those countries where we’re poaching doctors from, because we need doctors and women aren’t following through they, they leave the workforce to have kids when they come back, they rarely come back full time.
Jason Hartman 39:15
Mm hmm.
Karen Straughan 39:16
Right. Yeah. So you’re just literally you’re just getting less out of female doctors than you are out of male doctors. And then we poach doctors from countries where
Jason Hartman 39:26
access to health care is is so limited, and we heard those countries Yeah, it’s terrible. Well,
Karen Straughan 39:32
yeah, it’s we’re exploiting these countries, you know, our own convenience. And you could even see this with some of the Brexit rhetoric with the remainders. Right. You know, well, if,
Jason Hartman 39:42
if the polls and the Romanians can’t stay, who’s going to pour our coffee? I know. It’s unbelievable. That’s so ridiculous. Those kinds of statements are just intellectually stupid, if any, I mean, I mean, you know, as let’s say, you know, people people in the US say, Well, you know, if we didn’t allow our This illegal immigration from Mexico, you know, who would pick the strawberries? I don’t know, you know, they used to have strawberries in the 50s in the 40s in the 30s. And you know, we didn’t have this problem back then. You know, it’s like, this is such a snobby argument. It’s ridiculous.
Karen Straughan 40:18
It is, you know, who would pick the strawberries? teenagers? Yeah. You know, when I was when I was a teenager, I had friends who used to be, they’re called chicken pickers, you know, and see, you’d have a chicken farm. And these were like, sort of, not quite free range chickens, but they weren’t raised in boxes. And so they were, you know, kind of packed into a pen and, and they’d have to be loaded onto into the crates, to, you know, the wire crates to go on the trucks to go to slaughter. And, and you you got, if you were really good at it, you know, you could grab three chickens by the legs in each hand. Yeah. You’d be covered in scratches at the end of the day, but it was a job for teenagers, right? No,
Jason Hartman 40:59
no, hey, you know, my wife, mother used to clean houses, okay. And you know, they say, well, who’s gonna clean the houses if you don’t let the illegals in? Well, how about people pay a fair wage to get their house cleaned to a person that is here legally. I’m a mind weight,
Karen Straughan 41:15
my wife Messer brands, road arguments in houses and banks and schools and daycares. And
Jason Hartman 41:22
I know, these arguments just are nonsensical. And they’re really elitist, snobby. Look down your nose arguments? Oh, I mean, you know, we’ve got to let these we’ve got to let these lesser people in so we can basically exploit them cheaply. I mean, that’s the most
Karen Straughan 41:41
brown people lose the race is do we need the brown people to do all the crap work that we don’t
Jason Hartman 41:45
want to be paid the leftist star the racist? Clearly? Yeah, unbelievable. But um, okay. Well, you finish the point, though, we got on a little tangent, I want to ask you one more thing. And we’ll wrap it up just about the general.
Karen Straughan 41:57
The point being that I don’t think that there needed to be any kind of, you know, massive conspiracy on the part of government or these big international organizations. I think that feminism really dovetails with a lot of our innate psychology. It’s a very easy narrative to believe, you know, that, that women are vulnerable to harm and that men can be bad actors, it’s very easy for us to believe that’s
Jason Hartman 42:22
certainly been true with individual cases and times in history. There’s no question about that. So that’s why it’s easy to believe, right?
Karen Straughan 42:31
Well, no, it’s easy to believe, I think because of for biological reasons. women having, I mean, you can you can go on my channel and explore some of this. But we we are very, very, very keyed into the idea of women being harmed. We want to protect women, I think that that’s a natural, innate thing that’s been us for millions of years, right? Yeah. And we don’t so much, you know, like, when men are absorbing violence and hostility, I mean, that’s their role. That’s their, that’s their role in the world, right is to be the people who stand in between women and the violence and hostility of the world, right, between women and children and the rest of the, you know, hostile nature. So, I mean, we we sort of have this idea that, well, when we see a woman being harmed, it really sticks out to us, when we see a man being harmed, it’s just business as usual. Right. And so I think that that really has been the major propeller or propellant of the feminist narrative, the reason why it’s so easy to believe the reason why it just kind of it just feels right to us, it feels like yeah, you know, they’re right about that, is because of our, the differences in how we perceive men and women and their roles. And feminism has actually exploited. I mean, they say that they want to, up in gender roles, they want to get rid of gender roles, but really they have, for consistency purposes, related, exploited our innate views of men and women and their roles in order to extract all kinds of privileges and benefits for women and and marginalize men to the point where there’s a significant portion of them who are just walking away
Jason Hartman 44:18
from any kind of feeling of duty or obligation to society. And there are many examples of that, you know, it used to be women and children first. And that concept was automatic in society throughout history. You didn’t need to legislate it. It was the way they got off the Titanic, and it was the way of the world and people would naturally do that. But now, men are going on strike, and they’re just saying, Look, I’m going to save myself. I don’t care, you know, and it’s it’s a sad state of affairs.
Karen Straughan 44:52
So maybe they’re saying they’re saying what have you done for me lately? Exactly. And, and you know, like, this is supposed to be Be a reciprocal relationship. Right?
Jason Hartman 45:02
So yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. And it should be reciprocal. You’re absolutely right. So speaking of that, and maybe we’ll wrap up on this question. So maybe my listeners don’t know. But I am a huge fan of many kinds of music. But what I like especially, is I like the 1970s, singer, songwriters, music, and that music from the carpenters to England, Dan and john Ford Coley to everything else, the artist, I can’t even think of all of that music, john Denver, whatever, right? It’s romantic. It’s sweet. It’s caring. It’s where men are professing their love toward women, and how they want to do everything for them and make their lives about the women do that they’re that they’re fond of right. And now you look at the disgusting music, you know, between hip hop and rap that is so anti women. And it’s so odd to me, it makes no sense whatsoever, that the left embraces this type of junk, it’s it’s awful. And they say they seem to say and believe the opposite thing. But the the culture war has just been the, the completely opposite way. So the question of the day is, don’t you think women had a better deal back then, when men would give their lives for them? Or, you know, you know, that profess their love to them and serenade them? Nobody? No, men don’t do that anymore.
Karen Straughan 46:38
You know, this might be one of the reasons for the paradoxical decline in in female happiness, right? So for you know, before we, from the beginning of when we started measuring people’s satisfaction with their lives, women always reported a higher level of satisfaction with their lives and men, until the two lines intersected in the mid 70s. And started to go in opposite directions. So women have been becoming less happy since the mid 70s. And men have been you know, they’ve they’ve had a slight incline but not not significantly. And, and I think what you’re seeing is, you’re seeing a lot of, a lot of it has to do with expectations being too high, you know, if you if you go on OkCupid and Tinder did some research that was quite revealing. OK, Cupid asked men and women to rate the profiles of the opposite sex, just a random set of profiles. And men’s bell curve rating, women looked pretty much like your normal bell curve in terms of you know, the average was the average, right? They rated women average, and they fell in the average. And then there were attractive women and unattractive women on the tail ends, right? But women rated 80% of men on the site as less than average in attractiveness. So like they broke math, they broke mathematical law 80% of men were less than average in attractiveness. And when they go when you go on Tinder, it’s even because that’s for casual sex. Not not relationships, it’s even more stark, right? Men swipe right on or, you know, prove of about 60% of the the profiles of women that they come across. And women swipe right on only 5% of men’s profiles. So according to women, only 5% of men are fit for casual sex. And only 20% of men are above average. Right? And so I think that what we’re seeing is because this is a free sexual marketplace, we’ve never actually had a free sexual marketplace before. And there were even after divorce and even after you know, premarital premarital sex would, you know would not get you totally stigmatized even when shacking up, shacking up and become a thing. You still had a certain amount of social opprobrium. I know, right, in terms of approving of casual sex approving of serial monogamy and things like that. But now we have this completely free marketplace. And we’re seeing 80% of men being squeezed out, right, because of women’s expectations. And so we’re it’s almost like we’re going back to a harem system of doing things and that’s where we came from. Today, between two and 6 million years ago, was, you know, the system of chimpanzees. The system of baboons where you know, you have, you have excess males 80% of males have no prospects whatsoever and 20% of males Sire, all the offspring, and get all the Get all the booty. So we’re kind of heading back there, in a way. And I think that part of women’s unhappiness is that they, they have this expectation that because they could have sex with that hot guy, that they could be able to form a long term relationship with him, and know that that’s just not going to be the case. Right? He’s eating unless, I guess unless we, you know, reinstate polygamy is, as, you know, an option. And I mean, they’re they’re kind of movements in that direction, in terms of polyamory and, and multiple marriages and things like that.
Jason Hartman 50:45
It’s crazy video that I don’t even know if this has unintended consequences. But it’s, it’s certainly messed up. I’ll tell you that much. Sir,
Karen Straughan 50:56
it’s certainly going to lead us into all like, because we never predicted that we’d have generations, three generations of damaged children, when we brought in no fault divorce, right, we never thought that that was going to be one of the effects. We thought, Oh, well, you know, if you’re unhappy, married, you know, then then don’t be married. So I think that we never, we never really have a good predictive ability to just kind of, you know, look at what are the what are the knock on effects going to be of these decisions of how we’re doing things. And so we end up by and often by the time we’ve realized that something’s a problem, could because it’s become a big enough problem amplified over time. And then we trace, we reverse engineer the causality and find out what caused it. It’s often way too late to reverse course. I mean, we’re used to these norms now. Women aren’t going to give up no fault divorce, it’s too beneficial to them, it’s never going to happen. So
Jason Hartman 51:57
man that will make the marketplace smaller. You know, here it’s it’s like you You raise minimum wage and and guess what, you just increased unemployment at the same time. And that’s sort of the exactly the market dynamic that’s happening here. give out your website, or your YouTube channel, or whatever you want people to know so they can find your work.
Karen Straughan 52:17
Am I allowed to swear?
Jason Hartman 52:20
Well, yeah, we’re not FCC regulated. But if Yeah, if there’s cussing, we could get a adult rating. I’ll put it that way.
Karen Straughan 52:31
Oh, well, okay. So I’ll just say my blog is owning your sh one. t.blogspot.com. How’s that?
Jason Hartman 52:41
Okay, well, that’s pretty, that’s pretty light. Yeah.
Karen Straughan 52:46
Um, so my, my youtube channel is girl rights, what? I have a lot of different presentations that I’ve given that are up all over YouTube. So if you just put my name in the search bar Karen stron speech, or Karen stron presentation, you should be able to find lots and lots of stuff up there on YouTube, you know, that’s not necessarily going to be on my channel. Karen, go
Jason Hartman 53:10
here and spell your last name for the listeners though.
Karen Straughan 53:13
str au GHAN,
Jason Hartman 53:16
good stuff, Karen, it was, you know, great having you, thank you for sharing some of this information with us. And let’s hope the world wakes up and recovers from these crazy culture wars. You know, the fact is, at the end of the day, everybody needs each other. And we’re all in this together. And, you know, maybe the COVID crisis has shown us that to some extent, for sure. But, you know, beyond this, we need each other and we need to treat each other nicely. And in a welcoming fashion. You know, this is not a war and why are people treating things like there’s a war? There’s not a war here, where there shouldn’t be? Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Good, good stuff. Okay. Thanks again for joining us.
Karen Straughan 54:00
Thank you. Take care.
Jason Hartman 54:06
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