This episode of the Creating Wealth podcast is inspired by Jason Hartman’s loving companion, Coco. Jason interviews Bruce Cameron, author of A Dog’s Purpose. They talk about his books, which resonated with a lot of people because it talks about true love and true friends. They also talk about his other book, The Dogs of Christmas, which is a dramatic mirror of our current hermit type lives.

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And then came down to you to Odessa last night, and I’m anxious to explore it. And I’ll tell you, the weather here is awful. Wow. It is, you know, it’s mid May, it’s the middle of May. And it is cold and rainy. And yuck, where is all that global warming that Al Gore promised us? You know, it’s just something else. But I’m sure all of the people who were his followers will say, well, it’s just the temperatures just changing and it’s never changed before in history. Right. So here Yeah, you know. Anyway, we’ve analyzed and discussed that with many experts on many prior episode. Loads of many of my shows and the entire network, not just the creating wealth show, but all of my other shows, which by the way, of course, you can find them at Hartman media.com. Or typing my name into any podcast platform. We have over 20 shows that we produce on a variety of topics. But our main thing, of course, is economics. It’s real estate investing, it’s financial freedom. And that’s what we are here to talk about on the creating wealth show. This is a 10th episode. What do we do every 10th episode? Well, we have a guest or a topic of some general interest. But I want to talk a little bit about a very good and, and thank you. I don’t have my Twitter account handy, sir. I apologize. I can’t remember who asked this very good question. As a follow up to my episode last week when I talked about bubble alert, and how you can spot a bubble. This was a good question. Well, I was talking about linear, cyclical and hybrid markets as we talked about. So much. And remember what I was talking about the bubble alert last time, and how you really can tell if you are in a bubble. It’s not extremely difficult, although, you know, we look back on things in cycles and marketplaces, whether they be real estate stocks, whatever, just the general economy. And we think, well, I don’t know, this is what I think maybe you don’t think it but I think, you know, why didn’t I see that before? Why didn’t I see that? So I could make a different decision. So I could invest more wisely at the time. Well, of course it it. Looking back, you know, As the old saying goes, hindsight, is what hindsight is 2020 right. It always seems easy. Or like it should have been easy at the time. But when we get caught up in it, when we get caught up in the craziness, well, it’s hard to tell isn’t it? It’s you It’s hard to realize that it’s like, what happened here in Europe a couple of centuries ago with tulip mania, right, you know, read your history and, and there was the, the tulip mania and everybody thought, well, tulips that’s the thing to invest in. Yeah, the flowers. I’m not kidding. If you don’t know the history of this, just look it up on Wikipedia, and read and learn about tulip mania because it was absolutely psychotic. It was crazy. I mean, what what were people thinking, you know, fortunes were made fortunes were lost. And why did they lose fortunes on? Yeah, tulips, right? doesn’t make any sense. It is pretty easy. Now just remember when I talked about the bubble alert, and how to spot a real estate bubble. I was really focused on only one area of it last week when we talked about that. I was focused on the property, how you could simply look at the property and No, I wasn’t talking about the broader economy. I wasn’t talking about job creation. In a given metropolitan area that would determine real estate values, I wasn’t talking about any of that. I was simply talking about the property. How could you look at a real estate deal a property without even watching my somewhat? Fantastic? Yes. If I don’t brag a little bit, my somewhat fantastic or at least it’s not actually fantastic in terms of production quality. It’s just really good content. It’s really good content. That free video on my website at Jason Hartman calm that is about how to analyze a real estate investment, how to analyze a deal, how do you know if it’s good or bad? Right? When I talked about the bubble analysis last week, I was looking at a way to just look at the property and no, not get all mired in what is the economy doing what is job creation? How many new building permits are there? What is the supply, what is the demand? I was looking Looking at the result of all of those things which coalesces in the property itself, to a large extent, and you can really tell if you’re in a bubble, it’s not that difficult. Okay, go back and listen to that episode, if you, if you by chance are new to the show and haven’t heard that one yet, because I think it’ll be very helpful to you, but this great question that came to me on Twitter. And by the way, you can follow me on Twitter, Jason Hartman, ROI, like return on investment, Jason Hartman, ROI, return on investment, not the whole thing spelled out just ROI at the end of my name, and join the other 23,000 plus followers there. So how do you know if it’s a linear market, a cyclical market or hybrid market? Well, that’s also pretty easy, because number one, the the linear market will, it’s very unlikely that it will ever really be in a bubble. That’s the first thing See, if you’ll Listen to that episode on how to spot a bubble, then you will know that linear markets rarely, rarely get into bubble territory. Now they have their slight up and downs as linear, as the name would imply, but do they get in massive overheated tulip mania? Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Miami style real estate bubbles? No, they do not. They never get into those. They did have an adjustment in you know, to two parts of the market cycles that were seven decades apart. One was the Great Depression. Okay, that started in 1929. And then the other one was the great recession that we had just about 10 years ago. Okay. And by the way, it’s interesting I remember. I remember so vividly now that I’m traveling around Europe here in Well in Ukraine specifically now the land of the supermodels? Yes the land of the supermodels, Ukraine. Wow. It’s so nice to see these Ukrainian women that just they dress so well. They really make an effort. It’s just so refreshing versus America and the Western world. It’s a, I don’t know, there’s this like a glorification thing that’s going on. And it’s it’s, it’s not good. It’s not good. But there I digress, as I so often do. But I will get into that someday on another episode, especially if you tell me you want me to. But yeah, as I’m traveling around Europe, I remember distinctly where I was, when I got the first big sign that the great recession was upon us. I was in Romania. Yes, I was in Romania. And that was just about 10 years ago, in the land of the evil Disgusting pathetic. Now thankfully dead dictator Ceausescu, when I was watching the news, I was watching, I don’t know, CNN, Fox, something like that. They were talking about the things that were going on in the market and the mortgage companies that were going out of business. And yes, I was in Bucharest, Romania, getting heatstroke, because I remember how incredibly hot it was. Anyway, it’s interesting how you can you can place memories in time, you can place them by emotion, you can place them by your setting, you know, your environment that you remember you were in I mean, I remember what my environment looked like when I you know, was was hearing this news. So, anyway, there it is. But yeah, the linear cyclical and hybrid markets, simply use the rent to value ratio, use the LTI ratio, the land to improvement ratio that I’ve taught you about on many prior episodes, and also use the cost per square foot. Now many of these things The items that I just mentioned, of course, are the bubble indicators, which I talked about on that prior episode. So anyway, I’m glad you enjoyed that episode, a lot of prior discussions on that, that I won’t go into now, but that’s the basic hint on how you can do that. So, we have got a jQ Jason Hartman University live event coming up, probably only do this once this year. So if you want to get into the numbers, you want to understand deeply, how to analyze a real estate investment, how to look at the numbers, how to find properties, how to evaluate properties. That is, those are you know, listen, you’re talking to Mr. Tangent right now, right, or I should say you’re listening to Mr. Tangent, that’s me. And, you know, I love to go on. People tell me interesting tangents. I won’t say they’re interesting. I’ll say that you say they’re interesting because As you do the basic fundamentals of analyzing a real estate deal, and knowing whether or not you’ve, you’re making a good investment, well, that’s what jQ Jason Hartman University live is all about. And that event is coming up. And you can go to Jason Hartman comm click on the events section, and we are having that in Oklahoma City along with a property tour. It’s a it’s a full weekend events all day, Saturday and Sunday, and all the meals are included with property tour events, by the way. So just get yourself there, cover the subsidized cost of your hotel because we have a special room block rate that, by the way, will not last forever. You know, every time we hold an event, we get a room block from the hotel that we contract for at a special low price. And, you know, we always offer an early bird registration price for these events. And then you know, the price usually goes up depending on the timing and the ticket sales of the event. approximately every week to 10 days, the price just bumps up a little bit as we get closer to the event. But maybe the biggest thing is making sure you get in on the subsidized room block price with the hotel. Okay, that might be part of the biggest thing, right. And so go to Jason hartman.com register. As soon as you register for the event at the early bird price, you will get a confirmation email and the thank you screen that will show you the hotel information with a special booking link. And this is just going to be a fantastic event. So I hope you’ll join us in July, right after independence day here in the US July 4, and we will be talking about your financial independence day at Jay Chou live Jason Hartman University live and we will have a property tour of Oklahoma City as well. So join us for that. Go to Jason hartman.com slash events to register. Today’s 10th episode, where we don’t talk about real estate investing on 10th shows, every 10th show, we talk about something of general interest. And since I am away, I’m traveling around Europe for two and a half weeks. And you know what I miss other than the ease of doing business in America, and the efficiency in America, and the lack of massive roadblocks and old European tradition that becomes rather annoying, which by the way, I will talk more about this on a on a future episode. And keep in mind, I was born in Europe, this is my home continent. And not all European countries are the same. Of course, they’re very different, but in some ways, they are very much the same too. I’m gonna get into this on a prior episode and maybe go on a rant, but the thing I miss most other than the ease of doing business and commerce efficiency, You see in most places and parts of the US, and the lack of these silly roadblocks that you get all over Europe, I miss my dog. Well, I miss Coco Yes, Coco. I really do miss her. She’s on a dog vaycay and that’s a website that by the way, just merged with Rover Rover comm kind of like the Airbnb for dogs. She is there back in Las Vegas, and I miss her greatly on this trip. So I thought this show would be perfect to do a 10th episode show that I recorded a while ago when the movie came out on a dog’s purpose, a dog’s purpose. I absolutely love dogs. I think it is very true that they are man’s best friend. Right meaning man generically. Of course that includes women. It is humans best friend. Okay. And dogs really are. So enjoy this interview on the topic of a dog’s purpose. It’s my pleasure.

Welcome best selling author, Bruce Cameron. He is the author of many books, some of the titles, all of the titles are pretty funny and entertaining. I love the title eight simple rules for dating my teenage daughter. But what we’re going to talk about today is he’s known for his great books on one of my favorite subjects and certainly my favorite creature, and that is man’s best friends. Dogs and my dog is sitting right here, Bruce, so welcome to the show. And we’re both listening and want to hear more about it. How are you doing?

Bruce Cameron 16:33
I’m doing fantastic. Thank you. Yeah, they everybody says a man’s best friend and my my favorite joke that’s out there right now is if you want to know who really loves you, lock both your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car for four hours. And then then when you open up the trunk see which one of them is glad to see you.

Jason Hartman 16:54
Do not do this. By the way. Do not do That’s so give our listeners a sense of geography. Where are you located?

Bruce Cameron 17:03
Currently in Los Angeles, California. I came out here to work on that. On the TV show eight simple rules. Okay, fantastic.

Jason Hartman 17:10
And where are you based? I’m in Marina Del Rey. Oh, no, I mean, that’s where you are now. But where do you live? Oh,

Bruce Cameron 17:16
I, I, I’ve been living here for the past decade.

Jason Hartman 17:20
Oh, okay. Okay, so you’re there permanently. You made it sound as though you were just there for the movie, or the TV show?

Bruce Cameron 17:25
Oh, no. Once you get into the gravitational pull of Los Angeles, you cannot escape. It’s my hometown.

Jason Hartman 17:31
I’m glad I escaped. But that’s another topic. So the you know, the dogs purpose the dogs of Christmas, a dog’s journey. You know, tell us about these books and what what dogs can teach us?

Bruce Cameron 17:43
Yeah,

Bruce Cameron 17:44
I I will tell you that. My big book a dog’s purpose which came out in 2010 was a way to have to call a surprise and now it was produced with a very tiny little budget. Nobody thought that it was worth advertising. It’s just a book with a dog on the cover. The reason it resonated with people is that it really addresses two things that we know to be true. And that is that true love lasts forever. And yet the your real friends will always be there for you if you just know where to look. And in this case, the real friend is a dog and this very special dog doesn’t die at the end of the bug like and some other dog books I can name this dog keeps being reborn and because it keeps being reborn and remembers its previous life, it comes to the conclusion that it must have a purpose must have some reason why this keeps happening. And until the dog can figure out that purpose and fulfill it, it’s going to keep coming back for more

Jason Hartman 18:46
they say that about reincarnation with people. I’ve heard that before. So, but this is with a dog. That’s fantastic. Okay, and so so what happens on the dogs, the dogs journey?

Bruce Cameron 18:57
Yeah, that’s good. I’m glad you put it that way. Because A Dog’s Purpose is the first one a dog’s journey is the second one because you know the dog doesn’t die with a dog. What the dog has to do though is try to figure out why this keeps happening. And in a dog’s journey, it comes to the conclusion that there’s a very special person that needs protection in the world. He, as a dog meets this woman, who even as a little kid, little child, her name is CJ, which stands for clarity Dune, when we meet CJ she is just always a little girl in trouble. And then as she gets older, she becomes a little girl who is troubled she has a lot of things happen to her in her life. And the secret to her survival. Her is that her soul is reinforced with the love of a good dog and the dog realizes that his his mission in life every rebirth is to find his way back to CJ and help her with whatever calamity has befallen her since his last incarnation. It is a Sweet touching book. And I think the reason why it really resonates with people has to do with a lot of people telling me Hey, you know, I swear that my dog freckles is the reincarnation of my dog Rufus. They’re exactly the same. They do they behave the same way. And so I think it really touches touches something for people. Yeah, it sure does. It sure does.

Jason Hartman 20:23
So what does the dog learn along the way in this journey? or What does? Does the dog’s master learn? maybe more importantly,

Bruce Cameron 20:32
yeah, that’s a great question. Because, you know, it’s told from the perspective of the dog. And so what I tried to do therefore was write from the perspective of a real dog. And that means a real dog that doesn’t understand English so you can have a conversation in front of the dog and the dog will hear it dogs have good hearing, but it won’t necessarily know what you’re talking about. So So And you can have a lecture series on never trip tip over the trashcan, the dog doesn’t know we’re tired, but the dog does know that you’re upset. The dog does know that you’re angry or sad or whatever they would, they’re really good at reading our emotions, they can tell by our facial expressions, and they can sense something coming off of us. So that’s what the dog learns the people all just go on with their people’s lives. I mean, I think that one of the things that happens with dogs, dogs are here for such a short period of time. And we know that we know when we adopt a dog that someday there’s going to be a very heartbreaking moment in our lives as we have to say goodbye to this cherished friend. And yet the dogs who are here for such a short time, live each day full of joy and happiness in some ways. You can say that dogs in their brief decade to 12 years or so I have a much more full robust and fulfilled life than a lot of people. Over 60 7080 years. So I love that the lesson of the dogs is that we should leave we should have every day be full of joy and we should live life like the dogs. Yeah, we should.

Jason Hartman 22:15
What gets in the way of that though? What what what is stopping us from from that?

Bruce Cameron 22:22
Yeah, you know, there’s a my newest book is the dogs of Christmas and what it delves into is exactly what’s stopping that there’s a there’s a man named Josh. He should be having the time of his life. He’s a young man. He’s in his 20s. He’s financially doing okay. He owns his own place. He lives in Colorado, but he lives by himself because his family’s kind of scattered and his girlfriend has dumped him and he just hasn’t gotten around to getting another girlfriend. He doesn’t realize it but he’s becoming a hermit. He’s becoming the kind of hermit that so many of us are becoming today, where we’ve become focused on our screens. The conversations we’re having by using our thumbs instead of on people’s expressions and the tones of their voice. We think we’re more socially active than ever, because we’re sending messages back and forth. But what happens with Josh anyway is that he is more and more, just like a modern day hermit, and then into his life comes something completely unexpected. He’s never had a dog before. And then because of a crazy neighbor, he suddenly not only has a dog dumped on him, he has a pregnant dog dumped on him. And he now has a house full of dog and puppies that he needs to deal with and how it transformed Josh and makes him a much more full person with an open heart is really the message

Jason Hartman 23:44
of the dogs of Christmas. There’s a great video about social media, you know, and then really, the whole thesis is social media is anything but social. You know, you talked Bruce about how we we spend our time, you know, typing out messages and so forth and and looking at screens and this video everybody should go watch it it’s called look up and you can find it on YouTube maybe you’ve seen it and it you know, here’s the guy you know walking by looking at his phone and the woman of his dreams just walked by him and he didn’t even see it. And it’s sadly true and I’m guilty as charged to you know,

Bruce Cameron 24:22
try looking down look down at your dog your dog is right there on point on alert ready for you to pay some attention. And I think you’re really missing a lot of life if you don’t stop texting, get up Get on your hands and knees which are our arms around your dog but your dog wrestle with your dog. And what what Josh learns in the dogs of Christmas is even more profound because not only has he never had a dog before, but puppies are bringing you a particularly intense sense of joy into your life. And it’s very dramatic how these dogs come in to the to Josh his life because it parallels the story of my own dog. My own Dog Tucker was abandoned in a box at birth at an animal shelter, literally spent a night huddled in the bottom of a cardboard box. The next morning, the shelter worker opens the box and sees these little little guys huddled in there and and says oh no, because they don’t have the resources to sit and bottle feed half a dozen puppies, they can’t and so it meant that these these puppies in this box were slated for sure death. But then they called my daughter and my daughter runs an animal rescue in Denver that specializes in rescuing animals that are on death row finding those animals that can be rehabilitated or get surgery or surgery or somehow requalified to be adopted, and they call her and they said we’ve got this box of puppies were going to have to euthanize and she said well, I don’t have the staff either, but what I do have is A German shepherd who just weaned her pups yesterday. So let’s see what we can do about this. And so they brought the box of puppies into this German shepherd and set them down. And with a long side, the German Shepherd adopted these puppies say, Yeah, and that’s how Tucker came to be my dog. And, and that story plays out in very similar fashion. In the book, The dogs of Christmas.

Jason Hartman 26:24
Yeah. Fantastic. That’s great. That’s great. So dogs are very good at living in the moment. I would, you know, there’s like, one way you know, one great quality is that they live in the moment, they certainly never get mad, regardless of the conditions you know, they just, they just go with the flow, you know, and and then they make the best out of everything it seems. Any any more thoughts or tips or qualities that, you know, dogs can teach us, you know, or how we can develop them that you want to share.

Bruce Cameron 26:56
I just think that you are You are living with a dog you are the subject of pure, unadulterated unconditional love. And that we should luxuriate in that we’re not going to get that from any person. There’s just always some if ands or buts there’s always a little bit of baggage. But what you get from a dog a dog doesn’t care if you’re fat, that dog doesn’t care if you’re you got fired your dog doesn’t, doesn’t even care if you eat too much, or you drink too much or anything, all the dog cares about, really is your happiness, because they are never more happy than when you’re happy. So take advantage of that. This is an amazing therapeutic element in your life. And I would also say just as is the lesson of the dogs of Christmas, where which sort of a love song to, to animal rescue. Consider rescuing a dog. You can of course get great dogs from breeders and i and i would never say that breeders don’t represent an important part of the The animal tradition, certainly, purebreds will vanish if breeders vanish, but you can get a purebred dog from any rescue if you really want a Labrador or dogs and you can hold out until you get the dog of your dreams, that Labrador or that oxen will come into the system, I promise you and adopt that dog and really what could be more wonderful than giving a home to an animal made homeless through no fault of its own?

Jason Hartman 28:29
Yeah, yeah. I mean, every I’ve had five dogs in my life. They’ve all been rescue dogs. I just won’t do the breeder thing. And you know, they’ve all been awesome. This last one. I got her as a puppy. She was eight weeks old and someone you know, my dog had died a month earlier, I was just starting to look because I knew it might take a lot of time to find a new dog. And so I went, I finally got myself to go to the animal shelter. You know, I thought I better start looking. You know, and you know, maybe I’ll have a dog in three or four or five months. You know, someone surrendered a little puppies and bad raffle and I put my name in and showed up on Monday morning at 11. And I was picked first I literally got the pick of the litter inside. This is destiny, you know, and bringing up a puppy is it’s pretty fun. It is a lot of work. But but uh but it’s also pretty fun to watch him grow. But you know what you say is is pretty true. Now, I want to ask you what do you think about people and I it may be tough to answer this one candidly honestly on the show here but what do you what do you think about people who don’t like dogs?

Bruce Cameron 29:34
You know, I think it’s okay to not like dogs. I don’t judge people who say that they don’t like judge I have dogs I have a I have a friend who doesn’t like dogs and she says it’s because they lick her and she finds that kind of stuff to be disgusting. So okay, I think what i what i have a much more real problem with are people who act out their dislike of animals by mistreating them. There’s just no excuse for that. You’re doing so much psychic damage to an animal when you mistreated? I would say I will. I’m much less trustful of someone who professes not to love dogs than I am of someone who says, Oh, yeah, I’m a big dog, man. I just feel like if you meet somebody who’s a big dog that you have something in common right there, and it’s a very decent human, common qualities that we share. Yeah,

Jason Hartman 30:26
Yeah, I would agree with you for sure. Well, give out your website and tell people where they can find all of your books. And if you want to mention any of your other books, feel free. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, I really appreciate the opportunity. You can wait, but you got to give a little summary about it quickly.

Bruce Cameron 30:42
Okay. All right. You could find out about all my books at a dog’s purpose calm, because remember, a dog’s purpose was my big book, and that’s what I’m known for.

Jason Hartman 30:49
Yeah, you know, Bruce, I gotta mention, you only have about 2300 reviews on Amazon and five stars. I’m very envious. You know, I think my book has like 20 Five or 30 reviews on Amazon.

Bruce Cameron 31:03
Wow, yeah, it’s this book A Dog’s Purpose really touched people in ways that are. That was surprising to me and the number of people who have given it five stars. It’s actually the highest ranked New York Times bestseller that I’ve ever come across. It has more five star reviews than it like that. Even then the help I mean, it just, and I think it’s got to do with it’s not because I’m a brilliant writer, it’s got to do because of the topic. It’s because of the idea of a dog that is motivated to help people and who goes through his life, learning life’s lessons, I think just think that people found that to be so charming. So when so I would always urge people to come to a dog’s purpose calm because we’re giving away free stuff and we have a dog OF THE WEEK contents. We give away prizes for that. And then when you’re there, you’ll learn about the dogs of Christmas. That’s a book that I’m very proud of because it’s out now and it’s a it’s a it’s a Christmas gift, but As puppies at Christmas that’s intended to cheer you up and cheer up anybody you give the book to. And I also have a thriller out that I just came out from the same publisher. It’s in all bookstores right now. It’s called the midnight plan of the Repo Man. It’s a thriller, but it’s got a dog on the cover, because I wrote it. And there’s obviously a dog in the book. When I write a book. I like to write true stories, which means that people come home, they say hi to their dogs. I mean, because that’s how I do it. I think most people who have dogs come home to say hi to their dogs. And then if you read the statistics, more than half of all people have dogs in the home. So it is very definitely true that if you want to write a book about if I want to write a book about a character who seems real and American and true, I write about a guy like Ronnie McCann, who’s the Repo Man in the midnight plan of the repo man. He’s a former football star, local hero, made a mistake got sent to prison when he came out. He’s no longer a hero. He’s more like a zero. He has no Real popularity anymore. So he says he’s a repo man and he’s a bouncer in a bar. And then things go from bad to worse when he starts hearing a voice in his head. Like he’s just like, literally a psychic problem. He’s got a voice in his head, except for this voice claims to belong to a real person, a real murdered person who wants the Repo Man to find the killers and bring them to justice. And that’s the midnight plan of the Repo Man. And that’s my latest book that in the dogs of Christmas are out now in hardcover in the bookstores, the dating your daughter and marrying your daughter books. It just I don’t know, for some reason I thought of that country in western song about cleaning my gun.

Jason Hartman 33:42
Yeah, that was so funny. Yeah,

Bruce Cameron 33:45
yeah, that’s exactly what I wrote the eight simple rules for dating my teenage daughter and it became a TV show starring john Ritter. Eight simple rules.

Jason Hartman 33:51
Give us give us a couple of those rules. Oh,

Bruce Cameron 33:53
well, I’ll tell you that. The first one is if you pull up my driveway in Hong Kong, you better be delivering a package because there’s that Making anything. Okay, that’s good. And then I think my favorite is rule number four, which is that you may have heard that in today’s world sex without a barrier method of some kind can kill you. Well let me elaborate on that when it comes to sex. I am the barrier and I will kill you. I wrote I wrote this book because I felt like I was living in a zombie movie because these the all of a sudden i’d opened the door and there’d be this creature there and he looks like a zombie. And he smells like a zombie. And I’d say, you know, go away, go away. But I’d look in here more common, you know, they just keep coming like in a zombie movie and they wanted to date my daughter and they literally would pull in the driveway and honk their horn. Like I’m like, my daughter’s supposed to scamper out and jump in the car. And so I always beat my daughter to the car when they honk. And I’d knock on the window and say he didn’t come on in the house. Yeah, right. And we’re gonna have a conversation, right? Yeah.

Jason Hartman 34:56
That’s great. Good stuff. Well, it was great having you on the show and You know, dogs, what awesome creatures they are. And I think everybody should learn to appreciate dogs more if they don’t naturally like or appreciate them because they really are just amazing creatures. And you know, listen, I like cats too. I used to have a cat cats are fine. But dogs are pretty special. You know, they really are.

Bruce Cameron 35:22
I had a cat The cat never really liked me. My dog all my dogs have like me the cat didn’t really like me. But

Jason Hartman 35:28
but that’s sort of part of the cat’s charm is they’re very pricy. They only like you when you’re feeding them. Good stuff. Good stuff. Well, Bruce, thanks for joining us and sharing all of this with us. appreciate having you on the show.

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