Jason Hartman begins the show with investment counselor Carrie to look back at Meet the Masters 2018. The discussion focuses on two main topics – property management and asset protection. They give tips on how to succeed with property managers and then look at internal and external threats to your investments.
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Jason Hartman 1:03
Welcome listeners from around the world. It’s great to be back with you. I know there have been a few episodes without yours truly. And I’m sure you missed me. At least I hope you missed me. It’s nice to be missed. Adam was doing some wrap up episodes and I can’t wait to listen to them myself because I have not heard them from meet the masters. He did one on Friday. So Friday we actually had two episodes. We had our normal flashback Friday episode which was a good one with Emily filler amo. I remember doing that interview about self talk about erasing negative self talk and it was it was really a good one. So we did that as a flashback Friday. And then Episode 941. Also on Friday was a wrap up from Friday. He did a wrap up on Saturday and on Sunday. So I can’t wait to go and listen to those episodes myself but you have probably all listened to them because you are good listeners. So thank you So much for catching all of our episodes. We really appreciate it. So this is episode nine for for today, and I have carry on with me Carrie, how are you?
Carrie 2:09
Hey, Jason good. Thanks for
Jason Hartman 2:10
having me. It’s good to have you. So first of all, Carrie, I want to say thank you so much for helping plan meet the masters. 2018. That was a lot of work.
Carrie 2:21
Yeah, thank you. It was it was I mean, we exchanged several hundred emails, phone calls, and but it was a success. It was really good. You had a good mastermind group there.
Jason Hartman 2:33
Yeah, I think I think it was a great one. And, and we had almost 300 people there. And by the way, we’re going to do a, some kind of a promotion or something. We have part of the deal with john burns, was I think we had to buy 400 of his books. And so we have extras, and I really don’t want these in my house. So want to give them away to our listeners. And we will figure out a good way to do that. I’m not sure what we’ll do yet, but I’m gonna get these out of my house, because I only need one copy for myself. So look for that coming up on a future episode, once we figure something out terms of an efficient way to get the books to you. Maybe at our next event, we’ll give those out as a freebie or something, I don’t know. But they’re great. And he was one of the speakers there. And he his presentation was really interesting. Lots of statistics, beautifully illustrated visually, which really makes things a lot easier to understand when there’s good, you know, visual representation of the data. You know, when there’s a lot of data, it’s hard to just speak it, you got to look at it, too. So, Carrie, let’s teach the listeners something. This isn’t really just a recap to talk about how great our event was, but it was awesome. This is there’s gonna be a lot of stuff you’ll learn from this episode today. So let’s kind of jump in and talk about whatever you like Carrie, but you know, I know at all the meals, the lunches, the dinners the breakfast, you were really networking and learning and also sharing advice you know for how to become a master real estate investor with so many of our clients there. And what I always say is one of our big jobs is to learn things from you, our listeners or clients, and then feed them back, kind of assimilate them, aggregate that information and then feed it back to the entire audience because we really are a mastermind, all of us are the thousands and thousands of people listening in 165 countries, I think around the world now. Which by the way, I gotta give a shout out to Sakari who came from Nigeria. Wow, that is a long trip. Wow.
Carrie 4:48
That’s crazy. How long would flight would that be?
Jason Hartman 4:50
Well, that would be many flights. You’re not gonna get a direct flight from Nigeria to San Diego, that’s for sure. I don’t know. What is his path was, but that was really great of him to come so far. You know, certainly over the years we’ve had people come from various parts of Asia, Europe, Australia, New Zealand in the past. But yeah, Nigeria, that has to be the most exotic of all, I’d say so. So that was a great really great, yeah. Thank you to him for coming to that. But carry Yeah, dive in. Do you want to take it in like chronological order? Yeah. And also, we’re going to talk about the venture Alliance, mastermind meeting, we learned some really good stuff there. That was a great meeting on Monday. It was kind of the additional day after meet the masters. So I want to share some stuff about asset protection that I talked about there and some other great things. So yeah, go ahead.
Carrie 5:41
Yeah. Well, we kicked off the day on Friday with you know, all of our local market specialists talking so it was good to hear the different economic turns and what’s going on right now. And in our Memphis market, Indianapolis, and now launching North Carolina, Quad Cities getting more inventory for instance. Esther’s in those kind of markets. And
Jason Hartman 6:02
one thing I want to mention, you said launching North Carolina so we’ve done hundreds of transactions in Charlotte, North Carolina over the years. But this is Fayetteville, North Carolina this time around, right? Yes. Yep. And everybody listening, you know, y’all know we’re area agnostic. So we move in and out of markets. When the properties makes sense. The market makes sense. And most importantly, the team are boots on the ground. Make sense? Go ahead. Carrie.
Carrie 6:32
Right. Yeah. So our Quad Cities team, they’re in North Carolina and Kansas City. And we’ve been in the Quad Cities for a couple years now but now feeling more comfortable with the other two markets. So so that’s always promising. And then also, Jacksonville. Now we have new construction there. Those are some interesting numbers and Jackson, Jacksonville, Florida. Yeah, Jacksonville, Florida. And then Jackson, Mississippi was there as well. Chicago. So, you know, hearing about property management from each one. And they all did a panel discussion. And it was enjoyable to hear the different rates, the different management tools that they use and the success they’re having, especially with the Jason Hartman network.
Jason Hartman 7:17
One thing that came up when I was hosting a local market specialist panel or LMS, we call them a local market specialist panel at meet the masters and we hosted two of those, as I recall is three a event. So I’m just kind of, you know, getting back on track here. So pardon me if I don’t remember everything. But one of the topics I brought up was the Smart Home topic. And you know, Carrie, I think this is really going to revolutionize real estate investing for our clients. It’s going to give them a lot more independence and autonomy from property managers. It’s going to enable them to self manage their properties more easily. If they Want to. And it’s really just going to do a lot of great things for real estate investors. But it seems like it’s still really compared to other technological advances in the world, really rather slow. Incoming, you know, but we did talk about that and you know, from internet control, thermostats, cameras for security, door locks, lights, everything. There’s some good stuff coming down the pike there. And I think that’s also going to make it more efficient for property managers. So that will ultimately put downward pressure on property management fees. As these technologies make things more efficient. I thought that was one thing that was pretty darn interesting. You know, we sort of have a couple different categories of speakers at these events. We have the local market specialists, the lenders, insurance people, and then we have what we call content speakers. So we, you know, this is the first time we really had a whole bunch of professional speakers that, by the way, charge a lot of money. Yeah, a lot of money. So we never really did that before. But this was our 20th anniversary event. So we really wanted to go all out and really try and upscale this one a lot. Of course, you all know we had a musical concert to which let’s make sure we talked about that Carrie.
Carrie 9:29
No, no, it was all it was phenomenal. And then yeah, the music performance on Saturday night, it was great turnout, everyone let loose after two days of non stop education and networking. So they did a really good job.
Jason Hartman 9:43
And it seemed like everyone showed up Sunday morning reasonably well considering they were out partying, which by the way, you know, I want to do a reality show at our next conference. Because you carry are a mom and you take care of everybody very nicely. I’m By the way, and I heard that you were taking care of some people about four in the morning on Sunday morning.
Carrie 10:10
Yeah, late night for me, thank you to those that are listening and know who you are. Yeah. You
Jason Hartman 10:15
you had some partiers on your hands Didn’t you that you had to keep an eye on
Carrie 10:21
to make sure they didn’t get kicked out of the building. So no, but it was fun. Your air guitar you had some skills there Jason It was pretty fun watching
Jason Hartman 10:28
Well, you know, I hate to brag, but I’m pretty good at air guitar. I’m good at AIR microphone to singing but you know, the singer of the journey captured band came down from the stage and stuck that mic the real microphone in front of me and I sang stone in love.
Carrie 10:47
And we have pictures.
Jason Hartman 10:48
Yeah, well, there’s also videotape out there I I do not profess to be able to sing, so I can’t wait to hear it.
Carrie 10:56
No, it was good. It was loud. But it was really it was a good profession. That
Jason Hartman 11:00
was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. We got the volume adjusted, a little bit lower after about, you know, song number two. And I think they really got in a groove and I the band was phenomenal. I was first time ever in my life, I’ve hired a band. And I was just, I have to say, totally impressed. I gave them a five star rating review. On the website where I found them. I was very, very impressed with a band. I thought they were I mean, people were dancing and singing and waving their hands in the air. I mean, it was That was fun. I had a lot. You know, I usually don’t have any fun at these events. And I had a lot of fun that night. So that was great.
Carrie 11:39
The show a lot. Yeah.
Jason Hartman 11:41
But let’s talk about some of the stuff we learned, you know, share some information with people do you want to pick you know, any particular content speaker and talk about that, Carrie?
Carrie 11:49
Well, I want to get back to when you said when we had, you know, the lenders and the insurance providers. Do you want to share the quote that your mom had? Well,
Jason Hartman 11:58
I’m kind of afraid to say this because, you know, I do not know who my mother is using for insurance. But I invited my mother who’s, you know, pretty darn good real estate investor in her own right and a exceptionally good property manager. I’d say. She, I tell you, my mother and my aunt and Joanie, who I also invited up on stage and they actually did a segment for about a mount on about 40 minutes up there. And, you know, and Joanie, she’s been on the show before. And when I was growing up, I saw her, you know, she she owns like a neighborhood. It’s quite amazing. I think, at the peak, she had like 120 homes or something like that, and just owned a lot of properties got very, very rich, as a real estate investor, and she and my mother get really good deals on stuff. And I gotta tell you, folks, here’s the lesson on that. You know, so many of you listening, just kind of go with what your property manager says. And you don’t ask enough questions or shop enough. And part of this is really just sort of keeping your property manager in check. You know, keeping a little tension in that relationship is a healthy thing I think. And and so when you get a quote, first of all the first lesson, this is nothing new. I’ve said it before, but you know, I’m gonna say it again. You’ve got to get the quote from the actual vendor on their document. Don’t just let the property manager send you an email and say, Well, this costs $280. No, they need to attach the scam of the document that or the PDF of the document that came from the actual vendor. And it should have that vendors contact information on it. So you can email them or pick up the phone and say, Hey, you know, what about this can we do this? Is this the You know, best way to do it is that the least expensive way or most cost effective, those are different, by the way, you know, to do it. And if it’s a high price item, you know, you get at least two quotes. If it’s a really high price item, you get at least three quotes. Okay? It’s so easy now, to just shop this stuff online. It’s just a cinch to do. So very important that you do that. And you not just allow the property manager to just throw out prices. I shared the story of a property have now sold it was in Charlotte, North Carolina, but years ago, and I talked about this on the podcast at the time, it was a property where it had a very large tree that fell down. And so the tree had to be removed. And, you know, they sent me one quote, and it was like, incredibly high. I thought I could make money off this event. You know, I could say to someone, you know, pay me to come and chop it up and take the wood away, you know, and I’d be selling the wood. You know me I’m a capitalist I just put an ad on Craigslist and said, Hey, you know, tree removal and they sent me a picture of it. I put a picture on Craigslist. I got all sorts of you know, quotes from Bubba with a pickup truck and a chainsaw, which you don’t want to hire that guy because he has no insurance. Okay, but the point was, I kept forwarding all these emails. I was getting these responses to my Craigslist ad to my property manager. And I never ended up hiring anyone. I heard their person as I recall, but somehow magically carry, the price came way down. I don’t know how that happened. It was magic. Magic, I tell you. So, you know, you need to not just accept everything you’re told by any vendor. You need to question things and keep a little tension in that relationship. Okay. It’s it’s a healthy thing. And we want you to save money. We are your advocates. We’re consumer advocates. That’s our job here to give Good advice. This is one of them where you can save some money. Okay, what else we got?
Carrie 16:04
Well, on that note, so talking to a networking with investors during lunch, you know, someone say, one investor said their property’s been vacant for four months. And I said, Why haven’t you told me? Let’s go the provider was at the event, I said, Let’s go walk up to him and say, what’s going on with your property? Why isn’t it being rented? He said, all their marketing, you know, we’re doing all we can do. But then you made a comment on stage as well, for Craigslist, go. And as an investor there, you know, the provider might be saying, the property’s not being rented, there’s no action, well, then you as an investor, go list that property on Craigslist, see how much traction you’re really going to get right and email the provider and say, Look, there’s 10 possible tenants right there. Let’s just pick and choose one of these or, you know, look how easy it was for me to do. So. Knowing those to bring it to the investor and or provider and don’t take the vacancy for a while they’re doing their best You know, I’ve actually been to Yeah, exactly.
Jason Hartman 17:00
So what I was saying there just to elaborate on that a little bit is when I’ve done this before a few times when a property is vacant in between tenants and there’s a tenant turn, I will advertise the property myself and I will then start forwarding just like on the tree that fell in that other property. I will start forwarding all those emails with prospective tenants to the property manager. Now this is may annoy them a bit. Okay, but so what Okay, we’re on your side people, you know, look, we were advocates for clients, okay? You will be showing the manager that number one, you’re paying attention number two, you are ambitious. Number three, you take initiative. And number four, in essence you are holding them accountable because you are producing your own leads. And you can forward those leads to them and say, Hey, you know, what about this lead? What about that lead, you know, follow up with me Potential renter. Now, you know, this isn’t really that much of a problem in this market because the markets pretty hot. But occasionally, there’s a rare case where some property like the one you mentioned, falls through the cracks. And it just, you know, it’ll sit and have a vacancy, but don’t stand for this, folks. This is why we’re here. Reach out to us. Reach out to your investment counselor, when you have a problem of any sort. And we will help you as a third party intermediary to get things done. So yeah, good point. Good point. Okay, good. Darren Bloomquist spoke. He spoke last year as well. And we were talking a little bit oddly about john burns the day before he came. You know, john burns, was one of the speakers after after Ron Paul, who was our headline speaker. And we were talking about some data in terms of the millennials. Now one of the things I talked about there, my opening keynote, Carrie was about the six years, 6 million new renters prediction. Remember that one? Yeah, so I predicted that at meet the Masters in 2011. And that prediction more than came true, it came true by more than 1,000,006 years, 7 million new renters as income property investors, the renters, our, our, our customers, so we love renters, they are the customers. The rental, the band is is nothing short of phenomenal. And I think that’s going to continue for quite a while. So that was very exciting. I thought,
Carrie 19:32
yeah, I actually talked to a gentleman who was at that meet the masters. I interviewed him during one of those side segments breaks. And I said, So did you invest back then? And he looked down and said, No, if only I should have back then. And so it was he was just like, no, I gotta get on it now because it came true and what other predictions will come true that I might miss out on so he was excited to ramp up and get going.
Jason Hartman 19:58
Yeah, yeah, good stuff. The other chart that I did talk about on the podcast before that was pretty darn amazing is one of john burns charts. He showed so many slides and had so much data. And of course, we’re going to get a lot of these presentations into the app. So for everybody who was there, a lot of these PowerPoint slides will be in the app. So even though the conference is over, check that app, check it today, check it tomorrow, we will be updating that app. And we’ll leave it open for quite a while. So there’ll be a lot of info there. And I know people are still continuing to post pictures, we have well over 100 pictures that all of you have posted from all your fun times there and, and all kinds of stuff. So please keep those crowd photos coming. We love to see them. Post your pictures with Ron Paul and the other speakers and all that good stuff as well. But that mortgage sensitivity chart, it’s just amazing. I mean, as rates go up, it just knocks millions of potential buyers out of the market and that means more demand for rentals more demand for rentals. So pretty exciting stuff, isn’t it?
Carrie 21:06
Yeah, that’s, that’s really good. And especially for, like we mentioned earlier, demand for rentals in new construction, but also, you know, the markets like Jackson, Mississippi and Chicago where they’re not going away. And and the tenants keep coming. So that’s good. That’s really good.
Jason Hartman 21:23
Absolutely. Okay. Anything else on the content speakers? I’d say the room was the most packed. I think everybody was in their seat when Ron Paul spoke, you know, his position on liberty and, and really on tolerance for other people’s lifestyle choices and behavior. And I think his philosophy is just pretty darn perfect. From a political perspective. What did you think of that one?
Carrie 21:50
Well, again, I was in and out of the room. But he did give it you know, a standing ovation and we heard the speech. You know, we had an elite dinner the night before, so he had spoken a little bit more about, you know, even his upbringing and where he’s at with his political views, and so many people could relate to him, or just, you know, have a consideration for his views that it was inspiring. It was really?
Jason Hartman 22:12
Absolutely. I think we had 54 people at the elite access dinner on Friday evening. I guess we can talk about where it was now. It was at Roy’s seafood. So that was a lot of fun. That was a top secret location before but now you can all know, because it’s already happy. And we did some photo ops there against the step and repeat backdrop. And, you know, that was a lot of fun. Everybody got to talk to Ron and I sat right next to him at dinner. And that was pretty fascinating. A lot of good stuff came out of that. I want to talk a little bit about a discussion that we had on Monday at the venture Alliance mastermind the additional day for the venture lines, people. We talked a lot about asset protection, and I just, there are so many misconceptions in this field carry it. It just drives Crazy. So, I want to say this. First of all, I’m not an attorney. But we did have Garrett Sutton asset protection attorney speak there Rich Dad, advisor and author of several books on the topic. He’s great. But you know, a couple things. First of all understand the difference in asset protection between the internal and the external threat. Yeah, I don’t have time to explain this now. But go to Jason hartman.com and type Garrett Sutton and listen to the podcast where I’ve had him on the show several times in the past and, and we talked about that in the second thing is understand that the first step in asset protection is privacy. That’s the first step. Not having all of your assets show up on a search and tell you you know, like, I have a background checking system, I can look up anything about anybody. It’s truly mind boggling. What’s out there in the world of big data. It’s scary. It really is scary. And so that’s the first thing privacy Okay, when you set up LLC s or corporations, you want to set them up number one in favorable states or jurisdictions. And number two, you’ve got to have them set up, right. And we used to be affiliated with Mark Kohler and his firm. And I gotta say, I was pretty disappointed with my experience there. It was good in the beginning, but just went downhill I think, you know, and we’ve had some other complaints as well, unfortunately. But you know, he’s a nice enough guy, but just my experience was not good. So I moved on. And Garrett Sutton does a lot of my stuff now. But one of the things that they did, they made a huge mistake, and they set up a few entities for me, and they put my name down as the organizer. And that instantly screws up the whole goal of privacy, which is the first goal of asset protection privacy, right. I mean, duh. You know, that was just super disappointing. So that’s the first thing okay. Then after that, if you get sued, and you end up where you hopefully this will never happen, but say you have a judgment against you. The thing that they do after that is called a judgment debtors exam, where they’re going to ask you a bunch of questions under oath about what you have. Okay? Now, I don’t think you’re obligated to tell them anything they don’t ask, okay? And sometimes they don’t ask stuff because they’re just dumb, okay? But you can’t count on them being dumb. It’s not a good strategy. So you want to understand that, how the process works, okay, how the process works. And I have people that owe me money, and I’m trying to collect from them and, you know, I kind of see how this unfolds. It’s really quite interesting. You know, a lot of people say, Well, if I own gold or Bitcoin, it’s all private. Well, not if they ask under oath, it’s not private anymore, because you have to tell them, okay, and by the way, interestingly, we talked a lot about about Bitcoin at this conference and, you know, mixes all over the news, and we started talking about that back in, I don’t know, 2011 or 12. You know, when it was a new new thing? That was pretty interesting, too. So just understanding that process is is vitally important, isn’t it? Carrie?
Carrie 26:16
Yeah. Well, it was interesting, because like you said, a few of you are talking in the room. Just protect yourself before anything happens. Yeah. Because that way, like you said, you have to disclose what happened. If there was a slip and fall and you knew about it, but you weren’t protected? Well, now you’re liable for that slip and fall, protect yourself before that slip and fall.
Jason Hartman 26:35
Right. That actually is a good rule. So the before the rule of privacy that I mentioned, when it comes to asset protection, the first rule is do things in advance. The first rule is planning. Okay, planning before there’s a problem because you can’t fix it afterwards. You’re not allowed to Okay, you can only do it before. So that’s another thing to keep in mind, but you know, definitely go to Jason hartman.com and listen to my podcasts on this subject. And you know, you’ll be very well informed there and you can you can take it from there, because I’ve interviewed attorneys like Garrett and other attorneys as well. There’s a lot of good information there. What else? So we had Daniel DiMartino. Booth talk a lot about monetary policy and the Federal Reserve and stuff. We had Andrews Alan talk the Moneyball economists. He was interesting. Ken McElroy, of course, another Rich Dad advisor talked about, essentially, although he doesn’t call it this, but he was basically promoting the whole idea of my refi till you die plan Wasn’t he carry?
Carrie 27:38
Yeah, that was some good support there.
Jason Hartman 27:40
Yeah, it wasn’t totally unintended. I had no idea what he was gonna say when he got up there on stage. I asked him to talk about some of the best practices in property management, because he has so many tenants and all of the apartments he’s syndicated about 10,000 units, I believe. Now, if anybody could talk about property management, he sure could, but he Definitely talked a lot about refi till you die without calling it that. And that’s one of the beautiful things about income property investing, you know, you can acquire the asset, then you can later get all your money back, maybe even more than all your money back and still own the asset. And keep doing that, over time, keep refinancing more money out more money out, still own the asset with everything else. When you want to get money out of the asset, you just got to liquidate it, you have to sell it, but within GM property to multi dimensional asset class and remember, there’s no tax on borrowed money. So a very, very beautiful thing in that respect.
Carrie 28:41
Yeah. And then just to even know on some other like the local market specialist and lenders, you know, we had four different lenders there and everyone kind of had a different way to relate to all of the investors whether you’re a single parent or a stay at home parent, you know, you work from home, you On your 11th loan, you want to balloon, you know, that was really good too. So if you’re out there and you need some kind of financing, right now, whatever level you’re at beginner or veteran, reach out to an investment counselor because there’s something out there for you.
Jason Hartman 29:13
Definitely the lender shared a lot of great information. And I thought that was very interesting what they shared a lot of good strategies for sequencing, mortgages, mortgage sequencing, very important topic. If you want to know more about that one, just go to Jason Hartman, calm and type mortgage sequencing. We’ve done several podcasts on that topic, lots of important strategy and thinking they’re one of the things I really like about the lenders who are affiliated with, whether it be Shannon or Joe or Aaron, or Courtney, is they really help people lay out a strategy to build an entire real estate portfolio, not just one thing, right,
Carrie 29:51
exactly the way that they described it was like you’re eating at Chipotle, like there’s a line and you have the person with the tortillas, the meat Beans, a salsa, guacamole and everyone’s working with your financing. Everyone has a piece in it, and they’re gonna make it so it’s right and it’s suitable to your needs.
Jason Hartman 30:09
Yeah, absolutely very, very important thing to have someone that really helps you with an entire plan. And that’s what we do. By the way. You know, I haven’t talked about this enough lately, but all of our investment counselors will help you do something that we call a portfolio makeover. There’s no charge for any of our services. Remember, we’re referral network, we get paid a referral fee when you acquire properties and build your portfolio. So we do all of this counseling for free. And one of the things we do our investment counselors is we help you do a portfolio makeover to determine the highest and best use of any assets you have, whether it be cash in the bank money in a self directed IRA or solo 401k. Whether it be you know, money you’ve got tied up in cryptocurrencies or precious metals. Hopefully you’re being very careful there. Because, you know, the South Korean government, by the way, just made a statement that everyone is going to lose all their money. So oh good when a government says something like that, you better watch out because I like I said, and I’d love to be wrong about this, but the whole Bitcoin and cryptocurrency thing, the product of every government on earth, and every central bank on earth is currency, the dollars the euros, the yen, that’s all the stuff they sell, they sell currency that is their product. If you own the store and your product was groceries, that’s your product. You don’t like competition when someone else opens a grocery store across the street. Do you know you don’t? Well, governments and central banks don’t like competition either. And cryptocurrencies are competition for them, and they’re not just going to stand idly by and let it happen. I know what some of you are thinking. You’re thinking. But Jason, it’s decentralized. It’s information. You can’t control information. You can’t stop it. Don’t be so sure that folks don’t be so sure that just be careful. That’s all I’m saying. We can do a portfolio makeover, a savings money in a savings account, Home Equity 401k you know, self directed IRA, whatever. We will help you put your money to work at its highest and best use. That’s a big term in the world of appraisals, highest and best use. And that is what we do. We help you make your capital and your resources work at their highest and best use. So take advantage of a free portfolio makeover with any of our investment counselors, and we will be glad to help you with that. Carrie,
Carrie 32:54
anything else to wrap it up? No, I was just going to point out you know, we do a lot of in our venture Alliance meetings we talk about Bitcoin and all that too. But, but those are good times also to hear more about opportunities and what’s going on with the market and really help plan your portfolio out as well. We talked a lot about some people invest in multi families, single families, how do they do their portfolios? So come to either venture Alliance event or Jason Hartman event and you get more Insider’s report on on what’s going on in the market and with other investors.
Jason Hartman 33:29
And I should also mention, that we are going to start working on we don’t have this yet, but we’re going to start working on and we’ve got some good feedback. I meet the Masters By the way, having our very first event we’ve had events on these coasts before Atlanta, you know, in Orlando, Florida, etc. But we are going to do our first event in the north east. Look for this, you know, coming up, you know, I know we’re gonna do a venture Alliance event venture Alliance mastermind event, that’s our small group. You can check That out venture Alliance mastermind calm. But we’re going to do a creating wealth seminar or a Jay Chou Jason Hartman University event and have some local market specialists come somewhere maybe Newark, maybe Washington DC, I don’t know. But we’re going to do something in the northeast. So look for that in the next several months. I really want to get up there. I know we’ve had a ton of requests from clients who live in the north eastern areas. They really want us to get up there. And I know you’ve been so gracious all of you over the years coming to our events in California and elsewhere in the country, and the world, frankly, but we’re going to come to you soon. So stay tuned for that. And we will have more information on that soon. Hey, Carrie, thank you so much for joining me today. It was a pleasure. And thanks again for helping out with the event.
Carrie 34:49
Yeah, thank you, Jason.
Jason Hartman 34:51
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